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Old 06-02-2022, 11:36 PM
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Agents can indeed be weasels and cause trouble for the clients, but ultimately, the client is the agent's boss ...... if the client senses that the agent is being a dipshit, he has the right to fire him on the spot and make it clear to the media that the agent's position/stance is not his.

I'm not necessarily saying that Kenny Moore ought to fire his agent, I'm simply pointing out that the agent works for the client, not the other way around.

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These players put their health on the line every time they take the field. If they have leverage to get a bigger pay day, GOOD FOR THEM!

I am 64 years old, I have a pension and SS to fall back on, with my investments to get to the end of my days. These are young men risking their health and lives in a brutal game, in their 20s.

I believe they should get all they can when they can. They owe the fans jack sh*t.


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I wasn't commenting on what the players deserve, or their efforts of maximizing their earnings.

I was pointing out that the agents work for the players, not the other way around.

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Cooper kupp was on DP show this morning and said kenny was one of the two DBs that gave him the most trouble last year.
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Old 06-03-2022, 11:46 AM
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I wasn't commenting on what the players deserve, or their efforts of maximizing their earnings.

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Yes. And if you or your organization want to be treated fairly, you should hire a professional, some one who understands how to negotiate.
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Yes. And if you or your organization want to be treated fairly, you should hire a professional, some one who understands how to negotiate.


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When exactly did I say that they shouldn't ??? I said that a player is the agent's boss, and that he has the right to fire him if he doesn't feel that he is representing him in the manner that he wants. Moore's agent isn't the only agent on the planet. When Alex Rodriguez played for the Yankees, he wasn't happy with his agent (Scott Boras), and Rodriquez fired him and hired a new one.

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When exactly did I say that they shouldn't ??? I said that a player is the agent's boss, and that he has the right to fire him if he doesn't feel that he is representing him in the manner that he wants. Moore's agent isn't the only agent on the planet. When Alex Rodriguez played for the Yankees, he wasn't happy with his agent (Scott Boras), and Rodriquez fired him and hired a new one.

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That's the thing I can't stand. You signed a damn contract you were happy with, live with it. If he sucked, could the team ask him to take a pay cut? Hell no.
people outperform contracts. wanting a correction is not a dick move. and the colts don't have to do it.


and the team can cut him at all times. so teams don't always honor the contract so i don't see how you can blame him for looking out for himself
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I would do it differently. Call me old fashion, but my word means more to me than money. I get the, make all you can, but integrity is a real thing.
this is a fucking absurd take. and i don't believe you or anyone that says that either.


the teams don't honor the contract if it doesn't favor them.
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people outperform contracts. wanting a correction is not a dick move. and the colts don't have to do it.


and the team can cut him at all times. so teams don't always honor the contract so i don't see how you can blame him for looking out for himself
He didn’t have to sign the early offer either

I blame him for not gambling on himself and refusing the first offer

I don’t feel like he outplayed his contract last year and under Bradley he may not be as valuable

Last 4 games 25 tackles and 2 pass def, and got torched by Renfrow and Marvin Jones

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people outperform contracts. wanting a correction is not a dick move. and the colts don't have to do it.


and the team can cut him at all times. so teams don't always honor the contract so i don't see how you can blame him for looking out for himself
Okay. Is there a stipulation in the contract that states if you outperform your contract we will give you more $$$$$'s? Moore looked pretty pedestrian down the stretch by the way. But overall, he is a damn good player.

The player can get cut, and the players know that. That's why they get guaranteed money. Hey, if you outperform your contract, when it ends and you are playing at an all-pro level, shit, then ask for the fucking moon.

I guess I am just old school, and a contract and your word mean a shitload to me. The way things are now days, I guess that is just taboo.

Having said all that, Moore is not doing anything wrong right now and he is well within his rights to ask for more money. And as you stated, the Colts can tell him to go get fucked (not your words, just paraphrasing)

I think all of us Colt fans just need to have patience and see where all of this goes. Hell, it may not even be an issue pretty soon. I love this board because no one here is a yes (pussy) man. We all have our opinions and stick by them no matter how wrong most of you are (LOL). My wife and daughter tell me I am wrong 95% of the time, so maybe I'm the one that's all fucked up. For the record my son is on my side, saying I am only wrong about 70% of the time. God bless sons.
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For the record my son is on my side, saying I am only wrong about 70% of the time. God bless sons.
Be honest, you are wrong 90% of the time.

Wait until you have grandson’s. You are always right. 110%. LOL
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