2021 NFL Draft thread - Day 1 discussion

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Originally Posted by Puck

Dam. you do this every yr. Last yr you HATED the JT pick. You were wrong and I suspect you'll be wrong again this yr. But seriously every year you hate the picks.

Ballard really does know what he's doing. JSYK

Taylor fumbled away a key game just as I predicted he would. That said, the team had Rathman to fix his fumbling issues. Hopefully Paye comes in, works with Mathis, and becomes a force on the DL. I'm not discounting the possibility that it could happen, he's loaded with traits, that's his only positive. But this is why even the first round of the NFL draft has a 50% bust rate.

Originally Posted by ukcolt

I watch a lot of Chris Simms' unbuttoned podcasts, and he has been going through his player rankings the past month or so. He is really high on Kwity Paye and has him as his No. 2 edge guy and thought that he was a top 15 guy. He says he is not the guy who is likely to be the speed rusher causing huge problems on the outside for the offensive tackle. But he is the strongest upper body guy, and someone who disrupts almost every play. Sack production is not everything, sacks are hugely over rated in my opinion, if you have forced the QB to make a decision quicker than he originally wanted to, that is a win, as more often than not it will cause an incompletion, or at least a completion for less yards than it could have been. He will also be a guy who will hold up against the run and help tremendously against the likes of Derrick Henry and Najee Harris. I like Paye and think he will fit this defense perfectly. He replaces Autry's role in the defense last year.

He has no rush plan and displays no rush moves. Never shows a push-pull, a cross chop, a dip and rip, a swim, a spin, nothing, he just runs into the OT and tries to push him back into the QB like Zach Allen did. And forget countermoves, he doesn't even have moves in the first place. And I know sack production isn't everything, but his 5 pressures didn't impress me much more than his 2 sacks, and you can fuck off with any PFF garbage stat that says he was better than that. I don't trust their subjective bullshit as far as I could throw Quenton Nelson.

Originally Posted by JAFF

When the NFL starts having a cone drill during the game, And then they start to have a track meet, some of those numbers might mean something

Why did you type this out as a response to me when you're agreeing with my point? I must really live in your head rent free.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I love all the definitive statements about Paye and this draft so far. Is he polished, no-the Colts are never (hopefully) be in a position to draft a polished pass rusher, they go top 5. Dam hates his tape. Ballard loves it. One is wrong and it isn't Ballard. It is a numbers game. Sooner or later Ballard will hit on one of these athletic freaks. He played 4 games last year and got 2 sacks. He pressured the hell out of qb's and plays thru the entire play just like Nelson. His work effort and character are so good I saw a prediction he will eventually win the Walter Payton award. Love the pick this morning.

You sure Ballard loves his tape? I understand loving the traits, but not so much the tape. Also, please show me where and when he "pressured the hell out of QBs" without using PFF garbage numbers. 2 sacks and 5 pressures is not "pressured the hell out of QBs".