In the upcoming draft

[Puck]

Originally Posted by nate505

If the Colts don't get a QB, OT, or trade down for a shit ton of picks I'll be furious.

I can even get the argument for a pass rusher, but man, the QB and line are by far what needs the most help now.

I Think Rainnman has played pretty well and I don't think we need to use a top 5 pick on an OT.

If one of the QB's they want are there take them. if not trade the pick or draft BPA Hopefully an edge rusher

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Puck

I Think Rainnman has played pretty well and I don't think we need to use a top 5 pick on an OT.

If one of the QB's they want are there take them. if not trade the pick or draft BPA Hopefully an edge rusher

I wouldn't be opposed to trading back and grabbing BPA and getting a QB next year, or even following year. There are some decent ones this draft, but all of them have shortcomings that realistically put them in 2-3 year window to be ready to be the "Man"

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

I wouldn't be opposed to trading back and grabbing BPA and getting a QB next year, or even following year. There are some decent ones this draft, but all of them have shortcomings that realistically put them in 2-3 year window to be ready to be the "Man"

I think we can trade slightly back and still get Richardson or Hooker in the second and still a good player with the traded pick.

I am not very good at predicting the draft so take it for what its worth

[Dam8610]

Where does this rep that CJ Stroud gets for not being able to go off script come from? Is it because he normally doesn't run the ball when things break down, buts keeps his eyes downfield and looks to make plays with his arm instead? Because there's a guy in Green Bay that's made himself a pretty good career out of doing that.

BTW, Chrome your breakdowns are pretty spot on minus the part about Stroud being a bad improviser. Anthony Richardson has Cam Newton upside and Trace McSorley downside.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Where does this rep that CJ Stroud gets for not being able to go off script come from? Is it because he normally doesn't run the ball when things break down, buts keeps his eyes downfield and looks to make plays with his arm instead? Because there's a guy in Green Bay that's made himself a pretty good career out of doing that.

BTW, Chrome your breakdowns are pretty spot on minus the part about Stroud being a bad improviser. Anthony Richardson has Cam Newton upside and Trace McSorley downside.

If that's the case I don't want him.

[Mr. Session]

Chromes analysis on Stroud meets my biggest concern.

OSU’s receiver room has been STACKED the last couple of years. They look like the recruiting class from an old NCAA football game on a PlayStation 2.

He looked good against UGA but as soon as Jr was knocked out of the game, the difference was clear. UGA is also built like the old Alabama teams. Very beefy and nasty front 7, not exceptionally skilled in the secondary. It was a good matchup for Stroud, and he played well enough, but I expected that.

This makes me nervous. Honestly, I’m content with getting Anderson so we can lock in this defensive front with him and Paye, picking up a QB later, and trying to make sure we have the draft capital go get a no brainer pick in the future.

[ChaosTheory]

If the Colts manage to lose to HOU this week, which I'm unsure of, it seems to me the only outcome that really matters is the DEN-LAC game. DEN's pick (3rd) belongs to SEA and even though Geno Smith is having a decent year (good numbers at least), he's 32 and has bad history. So they'd likely snatch the second QB.

Other than that, CHI (2nd) and ARZ (4th) don't seem like they'll go QB. If we beat HOU and LAR lose to SF, then DET leapfrogs us as they own LAR's pick.

That's an interesting scenario because after a slow start, DET has won 7 of 9, could end up with a winning season, and could sneak into the playoffs. I haven't watched much of them, but Jared Goff is only 28 and at least statistically has had a good year (29tds, 7ints, 4200yds, 100.1rat).

So even if DET does leapfrog us, they probably want one of these top-5 DL.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

If the Colts manage to lose to HOU this week, which I'm unsure of, it seems to me the only outcome that really matters is the DEN-LAC game. DEN's pick (3rd) belongs to SEA and even though Geno Smith is having a decent year (good numbers at least), he's 32 and has bad history. So they'd likely snatch the second QB.

Other than that, CHI (2nd) and ARZ (4th) don't seem like they'll go QB. If we beat HOU and LAR lose to SF, then DET leapfrogs us as they own LAR's pick.

That's an interesting scenario because after a slow start, DET has won 7 of 9, could end up with a winning season, and could sneak into the playoffs. I haven't watched much of them, but Jared Goff is only 28 and at least statistically has had a good year (29tds, 7ints, 4200yds, 100.1rat).

So even if DET does leapfrog us, they probably want one of these top-5 DL.

Goff has played well this year. He has played exceptionally good football since they went on their streak. It also coincides with him being protected better by his line. Funny how a good o-line improves an offense. lol. Ours is beyond atrocious.

Stroud played well against Georgia, but it is just a small sampling. Is this his breakout game where he leaves his detractors behind, or is this an anomaly to his usual big game less than average play? Who knows. Are the Colts willing to bank the future of this franchise on it? That is my biggest difference between him and Levis. Stroud had blue chip players surrounding him. Levis made mediocre 2nd. tier players around him better. Footwork is easier to fix than mental defaults. I hope Houston drafts Young. He will set them back and that is a bonus for us.

With Stroud and Levis being the perceived best two QB's this draft (My Opinion) I am ok with trading back and picking up an additional 2nd. this year, or even a 2nd. and 4th. next year. Good QB's yes, but none I would mortgage this franchise for. There is also no guarantee we get a shot at a top QB next year. If we can get an additional pick this year by trading back, fuck it, take McConnel with the additional 2nd. and do something with our pass rush and o-line.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

I am ok with trading back

Heads would explode, I know, but I don't want them to take a guy unless they are absolutely sold on him. They may be and that'd be great.

But I don't like feeling overly needy and cashing in a blue chip draft pick on a non-blue chip guy. Not to directly compare this year's class with these guys, but it terrifies me to spend a top 3-5 pick on a Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Blake Bortles, Mitch Trubisky... and meanwhile miss out on a Will Anderson type guy.

Nature of the gamble I suppose.

[Puck]

I would trade as many picks as I could for next years draft and try to have multiple 1st's

Caleb Williams is the real deal and so much better than any QB in this yrs draft