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[Dewey 5]

Put them in the order you want but Young & Stroud are the top two qb’s in this draft.

[TheMugwump]

Originally Posted by Dewey 5

Put them in the order you want but Young & Stroud are the top two qb’s in this draft.

And neither is worth a top 15 pick, certainly not worthy of a top-5, which is where Indy will be selecting.

They may take one of them anyway, but I'm in favor of an OT, DE, or WR.

[Chromeburn]

This is what I've seen and read from other evaluators on the 1st round QBs.

Bryce Young
Good: Best skills and intangibles of the group. Can read defenses. Great improviser when plays break down, good enough arm with nice touch. Good poise in the pocket and can navigate around it using windows formed by the rush. Is the same whether under pressure or with a clean pocket. Would be the undisputed number 1 pick if not for...

Bad: Under 6ft. Rumors are he is 5'10 and 180-190lbs after a Bama measurement day. That's like a small nickel corner. Won't know until the combine. But that is really small for a QB. Wilson and Murray are over 200 lbs. He doesn't have Murray's speed and athleticism. Teams will worry about his ability to take hits in the NFL, but it also affects his vision. Grossman once said he doesn't throw the outlet bc he couldn't see him, and he was 6'1. Wilson is notorious for not throwing the outlet passes bc he can't see it. Tua just admitted his vision is restricted and it affects his game, he is 6ft and some change. So it will be a factor teams consider.


CJ Stroud
Good: Probably the best accuracy of the group. Great long ball. Good size and a strong arm that can make all the throws. Pocket passer with the athleticism to scramble, but stays in the pocket almost to a fault. Known as a tremendous leader in the locker room.

Bad: Is surrounded by 1st round receivers and linemen. Has a clean pocket almost every game, that will not be the case in the NFL. Is not as creative in off-script plays, has shown some potential but you would like to see more. He has a reputation for not doing well under pressure, and in the NFL you are always under pressure. The few games when he was under pressure things did not go very well. Has an awful completion percentage when under pressure. In his playoff game he showed a lot of his critics that he could do those things.


Will Levis
Good: Big, highly athletic QB with a cannon for an arm and the ability to run. Has shown great touch on throws over defenders. Can easily make all the throws on a pro field. Plays in a pro-style offense and is tabbed as the most pro-ready QB. Did not have much talent around him this year and was played hurt most of the year. The offense did not seem to play to his strengths.

Bad: His mechanics could use some work and rumors his progressions are slow. Had a bad stat year, much better in 2021. Had to play hero ball a lot, is that because of a lack of talent around him? His touch is inconsistent, some times has too much juice on his throws. He needs to work on his passing more.


Anthony Richardson
Good: The biggest traits QB in the draft. Highest ceiling, the most athleticism, very strong arm. Shows wow moments of improv when plays break down. Exciting and creative passer who can throw to any point on the field. His accuracy should be better because his receivers dropped a LOT of passes that were catchable. Enormous potential.

Bad: Limited college sample size. Very Raw player still. Did not have a great cast around him so hard to know exactly how good he is. Will likely have to sit the first year. Is a team willing to wait and develop him?

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

This is what I've seen and read from other evaluators on the 1st round QBs.

Bryce Young
Good: Best skills and intangibles of the group. Can read defenses. Great improviser when plays break down, good enough arm with nice touch. Good poise in the pocket and can navigate around it using windows formed by the rush. Is the same whether under pressure or with a clean pocket. Would be the undisputed number 1 pick if not for...

Bad: Under 6ft. Rumors are he is 5'10 and 180-190lbs after a Bama measurement day. That's like a small nickel corner. Won't know until the combine. But that is really small for a QB. Wilson and Murray are over 200 lbs. He doesn't have Murray's speed and athleticism. Teams will worry about his ability to take hits in the NFL, but it also affects his vision. Grossman once said he doesn't throw the outlet bc he couldn't see him, and he was 6'1. Wilson is notorious for not throwing the outlet passes bc he can't see it. Tua just admitted his vision is restricted and it affects his game, he is 6ft and some change. So it will be a factor teams consider.


CJ Stroud
Good: Probably the best accuracy of the group. Great long ball. Good size and a strong arm that can make all the throws. Pocket passer with the athleticism to scramble, but stays in the pocket almost to a fault. Known as a tremendous leader in the locker room.

Bad: Is surrounded by 1st round receivers and linemen. Has a clean pocket almost every game, that will not be the case in the NFL. Is not as creative in off-script plays, has shown some potential but you would like to see more. He has a reputation for not doing well under pressure, and in the NFL you are always under pressure. The few games when he was under pressure things did not go very well. Has an awful completion percentage when under pressure. In his playoff game he showed a lot of his critics that he could do those things.


Will Levis
Good: Big, highly athletic QB with a cannon for an arm and the ability to run. Has shown great touch on throws over defenders. Can easily make all the throws on a pro field. Plays in a pro-style offense and is tabbed as the most pro-ready QB. Did not have much talent around him this year and was played hurt most of the year. The offense did not seem to play to his strengths.

Bad: His mechanics could use some work and rumors his progressions are slow. Had a bad stat year, much better in 2021. Had to play hero ball a lot, is that because of a lack of talent around him? His touch is inconsistent, some times has too much juice on his throws. He needs to work on his passing more.


Anthony Richardson
Good: The biggest traits QB in the draft. Highest ceiling, the most athleticism, very strong arm. Shows wow moments of improv when plays break down. Exciting and creative passer who can throw to any point on the field. His accuracy should be better because his receivers dropped a LOT of passes that were catchable. Enormous potential.

Bad: Limited college sample size. Very Raw player still. Did not have a great cast around him so hard to know exactly how good he is. Will likely have to sit the first year. Is a team willing to wait and develop him?

Wish you would have added Hooker into this But otherwise. nice job

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

This is what I've seen and read from other evaluators on the 1st round QBs.

Bryce Young
Good: Best skills and intangibles of the group. Can read defenses. Great improviser when plays break down, good enough arm with nice touch. Good poise in the pocket and can navigate around it using windows formed by the rush. Is the same whether under pressure or with a clean pocket. Would be the undisputed number 1 pick if not for...

Bad: Under 6ft. Rumors are he is 5'10 and 180-190lbs after a Bama measurement day. That's like a small nickel corner. Won't know until the combine. But that is really small for a QB. Wilson and Murray are over 200 lbs. He doesn't have Murray's speed and athleticism. Teams will worry about his ability to take hits in the NFL, but it also affects his vision. Grossman once said he doesn't throw the outlet bc he couldn't see him, and he was 6'1. Wilson is notorious for not throwing the outlet passes bc he can't see it. Tua just admitted his vision is restricted and it affects his game, he is 6ft and some change. So it will be a factor teams consider.


CJ Stroud
Good: Probably the best accuracy of the group. Great long ball. Good size and a strong arm that can make all the throws. Pocket passer with the athleticism to scramble, but stays in the pocket almost to a fault. Known as a tremendous leader in the locker room.

Bad: Is surrounded by 1st round receivers and linemen. Has a clean pocket almost every game, that will not be the case in the NFL. Is not as creative in off-script plays, has shown some potential but you would like to see more. He has a reputation for not doing well under pressure, and in the NFL you are always under pressure. The few games when he was under pressure things did not go very well. Has an awful completion percentage when under pressure. In his playoff game he showed a lot of his critics that he could do those things.


Will Levis
Good: Big, highly athletic QB with a cannon for an arm and the ability to run. Has shown great touch on throws over defenders. Can easily make all the throws on a pro field. Plays in a pro-style offense and is tabbed as the most pro-ready QB. Did not have much talent around him this year and was played hurt most of the year. The offense did not seem to play to his strengths.

Bad: His mechanics could use some work and rumors his progressions are slow. Had a bad stat year, much better in 2021. Had to play hero ball a lot, is that because of a lack of talent around him? His touch is inconsistent, some times has too much juice on his throws. He needs to work on his passing more.


Anthony Richardson
Good: The biggest traits QB in the draft. Highest ceiling, the most athleticism, very strong arm. Shows wow moments of improv when plays break down. Exciting and creative passer who can throw to any point on the field. His accuracy should be better because his receivers dropped a LOT of passes that were catchable. Enormous potential.

Bad: Limited college sample size. Very Raw player still. Did not have a great cast around him so hard to know exactly how good he is. Will likely have to sit the first year. Is a team willing to wait and develop him?

Good stuff, definitely all right on the mark as far as my observations watching them.

If it's me, I am going with Richardson. I think he is the prototype for what the new NFL QB is- big, cannon, and can move the chains with his feet. Yeah a lot of development runway is needed but we are going to suck for the next couple years at least.

I would go Stroud next. He did a really good job against and NFL team last night and damn near won the game on the final drive.

No way I am taking Young, fantastic accuracy but as noted, is small and will eventually get destroyed by DL's and it will turn him into a skittish guy that will burn out in a short career.

[nate505]

If the Colts don't get a QB, OT, or trade down for a shit ton of picks I'll be furious.

I can even get the argument for a pass rusher, but man, the QB and line are by far what needs the most help now.