Wentz or Darnold?

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

The reason his pro day changed my opinion on Jenkins is because he tested so much better than expected athletically. In my film study of him, I thought based on the film that he might be able to handle LT, but him being at RT concerned me on that, as did the prevailing "RT only" narrative on him. The "RT only" thing was why I had him ranked 3rd. When the testing numbers matched my film analysis, I decided that that narrative was just a narrative and that Jenkins based on his measurables and game film could handle LT, which moved him ahead of Darrisaw for me. It's not just the testing numbers, it's how the testing numbers affect the whole evaluation.

Edit to add: I would've used Jenkins's combine numbers in the evaluation, but they cancelled the combine this year. Pro days are the only way to get measurables in the 2021 draft season.

2nd edit: Just saw the part about Sewell. Here's the thing about Sewell. He's the Tremaine Edmunds of LTs. What I mean by that is if you watch Edmunds's college film, he looks like a David Harris or Bart Scott. That's because he was 19 years old. Sewell is the same in that regard. He's probably too young to be coming into the league, but his athletic gifts give him a pretty good chance at success. Unfortunately for us, the Colts don't have the 2 years it's going to take him to grow into a great LT. They need a plug and play guy. You can plug and play Sewell, but you might get your QB killed. IMO Sewell would be best served going the Ogden path. Start at OG his rookie year, then kick out to LT. He has the potential to be great, but right now his technique is bad and needs lots of work.

Well, I guess this is a moot point. We aren't getting him anyway. He will be gone by the time we draft. He is a stud, and at 21, I would take him in a heartbeat. All of these NFL scouts can't be wrong, can they? Well, maybe they can, I just don't think so. Slater is the only one I have ranked ahead of him.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Spike

Well, I guess this is a moot point. We aren't getting him anyway. He will be gone by the time we draft. He is a stud, and at 21, I would take him in a heartbeat. All of these NFL scouts can't be wrong, can they? Well, maybe they can, I just don't think so. Slater is the only one I have ranked ahead of him.

Remember that all the scouts said Ryan Leaf would have a similar career to Peyton Manning, and that RGIII would have a similar career to Andrew Luck. The possibility exists that Sewell will never improve his technique and remain the fringe average, Nate Solder type player he is now. To me, if Teven Jenkins doesn't improve one bit from where he is right now, he's an average-good starting LT in the NFL. Same goes for Slater. Both also possess growth potential that they could be among the best in the league.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Remember that all the scouts said Ryan Leaf would have a similar career to Peyton Manning, and that RGIII would have a similar career to Andrew Luck. The possibility exists that Sewell will never improve his technique and remain the fringe average, Nate Solder type player he is now. To me, if Teven Jenkins doesn't improve one bit from where he is right now, he's an average-good starting LT in the NFL. Same goes for Slater. Both also possess growth potential that they could be among the best in the league.

What about Cosmi?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by apballin

What about Cosmi?

He's in the tier with Eichenberg and Radunz, definitely below Darrisaw, definitely above Vera-Tucker (for LT at least). So probably somewhere between 4 and 6.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

He's in the tier with Eichenberg and Radunz, definitely below Darrisaw, definitely above Vera-Tucker (for LT at least). So probably somewhere between 4 and 6.

Hell of a pro day and has more experience at LT than Jenkins

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Remember that all the scouts said Ryan Leaf would have a similar career to Peyton Manning, and that RGIII would have a similar career to Andrew Luck. The possibility exists that Sewell will never improve his technique and remain the fringe average, Nate Solder type player he is now. To me, if Teven Jenkins doesn't improve one bit from where he is right now, he's an average-good starting LT in the NFL. Same goes for Slater. Both also possess growth potential that they could be among the best in the league.

The Leaf/Manning argument doesnt work here. Leaf had a better arm, probably a better athlete. Ryan Leaf had a five and dime head. No one could coach him.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

The Leaf/Manning argument doesnt work here. Leaf had a better arm, probably a better athlete. Ryan Leaf had a five and dime head. No one could coach him.

So if Sewell had a "five and dime head", he wouldn't be able to learn technique, right? Which would lead to the problem I stated.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

So if Sewell had a "five and dime head", he wouldn't be able to learn technique, right? Which would lead to the problem I stated.

No. Coaching leaf had to do with being a pro, a leader, a good teammate. He had the best arm in the draft, he was also the biggest shit head. He blew off a meeting with the Colts. Bush league behavior.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by JAFF

No. Coaching leaf had to do with being a pro, a leader, a good teammate. He had the best arm in the draft, he was also the biggest shit head. He blew off a meeting with the Colts. Bush league behavior.

Leaf WAS a shit head, he even admitted it himself. Sewell doesn't appear to be anywhere near the asshole Leaf was.

[Colts And Orioles]

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I wanted Wentz over Darnold, and it wasn't close.

In spite of what wound up being a disastrous final 2 games of 2021, I still have some hope that Wentz will have a better season in 2022 after having gotten a year of experience under his belt playing with his new team.

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