Interesting take on Brisset and Luck

Originally Posted by Puck

I'll add horrible team with a horrible scheme for the talent available

No argument here!

[DrSpaceman]

Also team is average 19 points a game with him running on the offense while they have given up about 6 or 7 a game to the D.

I think he has done a fine job with the poor coaches and what the team has.

However if you are giving up a #1 or a #2 for a QB, whether through the draft or a trade, that means you believe if you put a solid team around them you think you would be a SB contender and they can run your franchise for the next decade.

COULD that happen with Brissett? Sure he might grow into that on the right team.

Has he shown that he is definitely that QB that can be a franchise cornerstone? No, I don't think so.

I would look at it this way : hypothetically say Andrew Luck's career is over right now. Based on what you've seen from Brissett so far, are you drafting a QB in round one in 2018 with the top pick the Colts likely will have or are you sticking with him as the future starter and focusing on other areas of the team?

I can tell you I'd be drafting someone.

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

are you drafting a QB in round one in 2018 with the top pick the Colts likely will have or are you sticking with him as the future starter and focusing on other areas of the team?

I can tell you I'd be drafting someone.

I'd build a solid team, THEN look for a franchise QB. Drafting even another Luck to throw to the wolves leaves us right where we are.
Now another Manning, who can drag a 5-11 team to 11-5, THAT is a different thing.
Luck isn't that guy, he would have been great, just not Manning great.

[albany ed]

Unless you already have one, you never pass on a potential franchise QB. But this is all just whistling in the wind. I stand firmly in the camp that Luck will return and be as good as gold. I'm an optimist, and until I hear definitive evidence that he's not coming back ... he is. Our first draft choice will be a pass rusher.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by albany ed

Unless you already have one, you never pass on a potential franchise QB. But this is all just whistling in the wind. I stand firmly in the camp at Luck will return and be as good as gold. I'm an optimist, and until I hear definitive evidence that he's not coming back ... he is. Our first draft choice will be a pass rusher.

Should be and hopefully will. An all LB draft would be fine with me.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Should be and hopefully will. An all LB draft would be fine with me.

At least one O-lineman please. Unless we sign 2 multi-year starters in free agency, we need more quality on the lines.

But OLB[Rush], ILB, ILB, OL, DB in top rounds would be great.

Walk Worthy,

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[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by sherck

At least one O-lineman please. Unless we sign 2 multi-year starters in free agency, we need more quality on the lines.

But OLB[Rush], ILB, ILB, OL, DB in top rounds would be great.

Walk Worthy,

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some version of that would be fine by me.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by testcase448

Now another Manning, who can drag a 5-11 team to 11-5, THAT is a different thing.
Luck isn't that guy, he would have been great, just not Manning great.

Luck was exactly that guy. He took 4-5 win teams and got them to 11 wins

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by testcase448

I'd build a solid team, THEN look for a franchise QB. Drafting even another Luck to throw to the wolves leaves us right where we are.
Now another Manning, who can drag a 5-11 team to 11-5, THAT is a different thing.
Luck isn't that guy, he would have been great, just not Manning great.

Mostly agree. It really depends on the qb class, I don’t follow college ball much so I have no idea if there’s a franchise qb to be had, but assuming there’s no lock, I would roll with Brissett one more year and build the trenches.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by testcase448

I'd build a solid team, THEN look for a franchise QB. Drafting even another Luck to throw to the wolves leaves us right where we are.
Now another Manning, who can drag a 5-11 team to 11-5, THAT is a different thing.
Luck isn't that guy, he would have been great, just not Manning great.

You have to take a chance at a QB when they come along and this is a deep QB draft. Again, hypothetically speaking, I would take the QB.

History of the NFL is filled with great overall teams destined to mediocrity due to not having a franchise QB