Interesting take on Brisset and Luck

[GoBigBlue88]

Um, Jacoby ain't fetching much yet anyway. Dumb thing for anyone to posit.

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

Um, Jacoby ain't fetching much yet anyway. Dumb thing for anyone to posit.

posit?

But beyond that it just furthers my point, trade Luck. Let Jacoby take the pounding until we're rebuilt

[FatDT]

If Luck were so not worth keeping that the team would want to trade him, no other team would give up anything for him. Why would they pay for damaged goods? And if he wasn't damaged why would the Colts get rid of him?

[Maniac]

Here we go with this stupid shit again.

They aren't trading Luck. Get over it.

[sherck]

(Ages as of the end of the 2017 NFL season)

2017 Passing Yards, Top 16:
01. Tom Brady, NE, 40 years old, 2,541 yards
02. Alex Smith, KC, 33 years old, 2,444 yards
03. Russell Wilson, SEA, 29 years old, 2,305 yards
04. Carson Wentz, PHI, 25 years old, 2,262 yards
05. Drew Brees, NO, 38 years old, 2,214 yards
06. Matt Ryan, ATL, 32 years old, 2,157 yards
07. Kirk Cousins, WAS, 29 years old, 2,147 yards
08. Ben Roethlisberger, PIT, 35 years old, 2,062 yards
09. Jared Geoff, LAR, 23 years old, 2,030 yards
10. Phillip Rivers, LAC, 36 years old, 2,208 yards
11. Josh McCown, NYJ, 38 years old, 1,980 yards
12. Cam Newton, CAR, 28 years old, 1,978 yards
13. Carson Palmer, ARI, 38 years old, 1,978 yards
14. Derek Carr, OAK, 26 years old, 1,954 yards
15. Jacoby Brissett, IND, 24 years old, 1,950 yards
16. Jameis Winston, TB, 23 years old, 1,920 yards

2017 Passing Completion Percentages, Top 16:
01. Drew Brees, NO, 38 years old, 71.6%
02. Josh McCown, NYJ, 38 years old, 70.4%
03. Alex Smith, KC, 33 years old, 69.6%
04. Kirk Cousins, WAS, 29 years old, 67.9%
05. Tom Brady, NE, 40 years old, 66.7%
06. Mike Glennon, CHI, 28 years old, 66.4%
07. Aaron Rodgers, GB, 34 years old, 66.3%
08. Jay Cutler, MIA, 34 years old, 66.2%
09. Matt Ryan, ATL, 32 years old, 65.6%
10. Tyrod Taylor, BUF, 28 years old, 65.3%
11. Derek Carr, OAK, 26 years old, 65.2%
12. Joe Flacco, BAL, 32 years old, 64.3%
13. Case Keenum, MIN, 29 years old, 63.9%
14. Eli Manning, NYG, 36 years old, 63.2%
15. Marcus Mariota, TEN, 24 years old, 63.2%
16. Dak Prescott, DAL, 24 years old, 62.9%

2017 Quarterback Rating, Top 16
01. Alex Smith, KC, 33 years old, 113.9
02. Tom Brady, NE, 40 years old, 106.5
03. Drew Brees, NO, 38 years old, 105.0
04. Carson Wentz, PHI, 25 years old, 104.1
05. Aaron Rodgers, GB, 34 years old, 103.2
06. Deshaun Watson, HOU, 22 years old, 103.0
07. Kirk Cousins, WAS, 29 years old, 102.0
08. Dak Prescott, DAL, 24 years old, 97.9
09. Jared Geoff, LAR, 23 years old, 97.9
10. Josh McCown, 38 years old, 97.9
11. Russell Wilson, 29 years old, 95.9
12. Tyrod Taylor, BUF, 28 years old, 95.8
13. Matt Ryan, ATL, 32 years old, 92.8
14. Derek Carr, OAK, 26 years old, 91.8
15. Matthew Stafford, DET, 29 years old, 89.6
16. Case Keenum, MIN, 29 years old, 88.8

2017 Passing TD Leaders, Top 16:
No new QBs added to list.

2017 Lowest Interception Percentage, Top 16 (minimum avg of 14 pass attempts per game):
Only one new name added:

15. Brian Hoyer, SF, 32 years old, 205 pass attempts, 4 interceptions, 2.0% INT percentage


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QBs in top half of league performance in 2017 by age:

40 years old = Tom Brady
39 years old =
38 years old = Drew Brees, Josh McCown, Carson Palmer
37 years old =
36 years old = Eli Manning
35 years old = Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger
34 years old = Jay Cutler, Aaron Rodgers
33 years old = Alex Smith
32 years old = Joe Flacco, Brian Hoyer, Matt Ryan
31 years old =
30 years old =
29 years old = Kirk Cousins WAS, Case Keenum MIN, Matthew Stafford DET, Russell Wilson SEA
28 years old = Mike Glennon CHI, ((Andrew Luck IND)), Cam Newton CAR, Tyrod Taylor BUF
27 years old =
26 years old = Derek Carr OAK
25 years old = Carson Wentz PHI
24 years old = Jacoby Brissett IND, Marcus Mariota TEN, Dak Prescott DAL
23 years old = Jared Geoff PHI, Jameis Winston TB
22 years old = Deshaun Watson HOU
21 years old =

13 of the 2017 top performing QBs are over the age of 32.
16 of the 2017 top performing QBs are under the age of 30 (if you add in Luck).

Of the 16 “young” QBs, those that are in the AFC:

AFC North:
BAL =
CIN =
CLE =
PIT =

AFC East:
BUF = Tyrod Taylor, 28 years old
MIA =
NYJ =
NE =

AFC West:
DEN =
KC =
LAC =
OAK = Derek Carr, 26 years old

AFC South:
HOU = Deshaun Watson, 22 years old
IND = Andrew Luck, 28 years old, Jacoby Brissett 24 years old
JAX =
TEN = Marcus Mariota, 24 years old

Other than Carr in Oakland and perhaps Taylor in Buffalo, there are no young, high performing QBs in the AFC in 2017 outside the AFC South. The Colts have two on their roster IF Luck recovers.

Let’s not trade either of them away in 2018 because there are just not enough NFL QBs that can go out and win games for you. We appear to have 2 of them on our roster for 2018. That is an advantage that you just cannot trade away in the NFL. I don’t care how much folks want to throw at you; you have to have depth at the team’s most important position.

Walk Worthy,

[DrSpaceman]

No one is giving up much for Brissett to make it worth trading him

And we aren't trading Luck

This is like all the idiots back in 2002 and 2003 or so who said Manning should be traded before he signed his second contract because he wouldn't be worth the money.

Luck is going nowhere

[Pez]

"Realistically, the Colts could trade Jacoby Brissett for a late-first to mid-second round pick after his impressive season. "

That's the kind Of deal that only Ryan Grigson would love.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by testcase448

posit?

But beyond that it just furthers my point, trade Luck. Let Jacoby take the pounding until we're rebuilt

Just no! A franchise QB is the hardest piece to ever gat, you simply do not trade them away.

[ChoppedWood]

Can someone please get Mike Ditka or Mike Lynn, or preferably both of them on the red phone please...

[albany ed]

I don't see this team being years away. There's some young talent on this team, and they'll add some more for next season. A free agent here and there and a healthy Andrew Luck and this team wins at least 11 games next season. It all hinges on Luck. If he's healthy, we're a pretty good team, without him we're not. Jacoby is a decent #2, and is proving he's a possible starter, but he's no Andrew Luck and never will be. If you trade Luck, you are trading the future of this team, he's only 28.