Old man Phil

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

People root for teams differently. Some of us are always negative, some of us are pollyanna types that always see the positive. The truth probably is somewhere in-between. But getting on someone for being negative who has spent the last 10 years (for me it is over 60 fucking years) following this mediocre shit show is a little much to me. Bitch all you want, if I disagree it gives me someone and something to argue about and with, which is one of the reasons I come here. I, and this is today, think Ballard is great at his job except he is horrible at scouting pass rushers and quarterbacks-unfortunately the two most important positions in football. Not sure if that can ever be worked around, maybe if you just get lucky. I like Steichen. He produces wins with no pass rush and the best QB he has ever had was having a career year with him (seems to happen quite often), l but I want to point out that a career year with Jones made him into an average QB. Nobody keeps repeating career years.

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Jim Plunkett was thought of as a loser after 7 seasons of futility while QB-ing bad teams on the New England Patriots and the San Francisco 49ers from 1971 through 1977. After being out of football for 2 seasons, he came back with the Raiders and resurrected his career behind one of the best offensive lines in the history of professional football. He won a Super Bowl in 1980, won another Super Bowl in 1983, and led the Raiders to an 8-1 record in 1982 before they were upset by the Jets in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Plunkett's record as a starter with the Patriots and the 49ers between 1971 and 1977 was 34-53.

Plunkett's record as a starter with the Raiders between 1980 and 1984 was 34-12.


The Colts were 8-2 this season before Daniel Jones hurt his leg, and he was ranked #4 in the NFL in passer rating at that point. They lost the last 2 games that he played entirely by a very close margin while his mobility, which is a big part of his game for exponential reasons, was severely hampered. Presuming that Jones is necessarily now average based largely on his 6 seasons playing with bad New York Giants teams and 1 season playing with the Colts is as faulty as saying that Jim Plunket had a career year in 1980, and therefore could not continue at that success rate, which he clearly dd.

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