Who do you want at 15?

[Kray007]

Want Turner. Willing to settle for Verse or Mitchell.

[IndyNorm]

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2024/...ly-trading-up/

This article has some analysts saying it's Mitchell or possibly Arnold. Mitchell makes sense. I don't think Arnold's RAS score is high enough to get Ballard excited enough to trade up for him.

If we do trade up I hope it's as Dam mentions for one of the top WRs or only a small trade up for Bowers.

Speaking of trading up, there was a RATS article published yesterday about trading up for MHJ. The guy who wrote it said he used the NFL Mock Draft Database to determine it would take 15, and next year's 1st and 3rd to move up to 4. If that is what it takes then I'd be for doing it, but pretty sure it would take more than that.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2024/...ly-trading-up/

This article has some analysts saying it's Mitchell or possibly Arnold. Mitchell makes sense. I don't think Arnold's RAS score is high enough to get Ballard excited enough to trade up for him.

If we do trade up I hope it's as Dam mentions for one of the top WRs or only a small trade up for Bowers.

Speaking of trading up, there was a RATS article published yesterday about trading up for MHJ. The guy who wrote it said he used the NFL Mock Draft Database to determine it would take 15, and next year's 1st and 3rd to move up to 4. If that is what it takes then I'd be for doing it, but pretty sure it would take more than that.

With team's trying to move up for a QB, there's no way that package gets the Colts to 4. You'd be lucky to get to 6 with that package this year.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by apballin

Problem is we don’t know if anyone from this draft will be either

Truly elite guys tend to go top 5

That might be true, Dayo and Paye didn't go anywhere near the top 5, they were both projects coming out of college. If either Turner, Verse or Latu were drafted by the Colt's they would immediately become their best pass rusher. It's time Ballard stops drafting guys like Turray, Banago, Dayo and Paye, and gets a guy that has showed he can get to the QB !

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2024/...ly-trading-up/

This article has some analysts saying it's Mitchell or possibly Arnold. Mitchell makes sense. I don't think Arnold's RAS score is high enough to get Ballard excited enough to trade up for him.

If we do trade up I hope it's as Dam mentions for one of the top WRs or only a small trade up for Bowers.

Speaking of trading up, there was a RATS article published yesterday about trading up for MHJ. The guy who wrote it said he used the NFL Mock Draft Database to determine it would take 15, and next year's 1st and 3rd to move up to 4. If that is what it takes then I'd be for doing it, but pretty sure it would take more than that.

I have a completely irrational desire for us to get Harrison (#88 is my favorite football player of all-time). We know Ballard's style, but beyond that, it's just objectively going to be crazy expensive to get up to 4th overall. But, like I said, I'm irrational about that one.

I do think this year might have an abnormal amount of shuffling because so many teams need OL, if not QB. You could actually see ARZ and LAC trading down to those teams who might not take him.

And then it gets way convoluted if that starts happening because they're bidding against each other.

[YDFL Commish]

Only Arizona would be dumb enough to trade down.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

I have a completely irrational desire for us to get Harrison (#88 is my favorite football player of all-time). We know Ballard's style, but beyond that, it's just objectively going to be crazy expensive to get up to 4th overall. But, like I said, I'm irrational about that one.

I do think this year might have an abnormal amount of shuffling because so many teams need OL, if not QB. You could actually see ARZ and LAC trading down to those teams who might not take him.

And then it gets way convoluted if that starts happening because they're bidding against each other.

Sentimentality aside, MHJ is an elite talent at a premium position. As is Nabers. Adding either of them to our offense would be off the charts huge. Guessing it would probably cost at least our 1st and 2nd this year and next year's 1st and 3rd to move up to draft either of them (basing this off of what Hou gave up to move to #3 last year), and that's probably too rich for my blood much less Ballard's.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Never say never, but it's extremely unlikely. In his 7 drafts w/ the Colts Ballard has moved up 4 times. 2 of them where he had to give up minimal draft capital to move up 3 spots in/into the 2nd round (JT and Lewis trades), and 2 more where mid round picks were involved (Willis and Cross). For good or for bad I really doubt Ballard will ever give up the draft capital it takes to move up in the 1st round.

Via Hard Knocks (video clip below), we found out that Ballard tried to move up to 1.06 by throwing in two 2nd Round Picks (2024's 2.46 and the 2025 2nd Round Pick).

However, the Giants were not interested in moving back to 1.15.


https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1818457132825550865

[Discflinger]

What does that add up to for Jimmy?

[apballin]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy

Via Hard Knocks (video clip below), we found out that Ballard tried to move up to 1.06 by throwing in two 2nd Round Picks (2024's 2.46 and the 2025 2nd Round Pick).

However, the Giants were not interested in moving back to 1.15.


https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1818457132825550865

Hopefully this ends up being a blessing in disguise like the Mcdaniels fiasco