Quick Thoughts - Week 13

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

ehlinger had no chance last year. i really don't think anything about what we saw tells us anything. don't get me wrong, i don't think he is ever going to be a starter quality player. but can he be a good backup? maybe. and that goes beyond what he does on the field. i imagine ehlinger is a great qb room guy.

and also, we don't have to pay 7 mil a year or whatever minshew will want to be a backup. AR goes down for the whole season again, i don't give a fuck about wins.

If he is close to Minshew's arm talent, we absolutely need to let Minshew walk.

Ehlinger isn't AR but I think his athleticism and skill set fall more in line with the offense we had for AR than what Minshew's does.

I doubt he processes things like Minshew does, personally, but perhaps he needs a real opportunity.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

If he is close to Minshew's arm talent, we absolutely need to let Minshew walk.

Ehlinger isn't AR but I think his athleticism and skill set fall more in line with the offense we had for AR than what Minshew's does.

I doubt he processes things like Minshew does, personally, but perhaps he needs a real opportunity.

Ehlinger's arm is to Minshew's arm as Minshew's arm is to AR's arm.

I wouldn't be against paying Minshew high end backup money, he's earned it. I also wouldn't be against drafting Jayden Daniels. I didn't like the approach that led to drafting AR (mostly because it could've led to drafting Levis) and I don't like that he now has a recurring shoulder separation injury. I also like the skillset that Daniels brings, he probably has every bit of the speed AR has, and most of the playmaking running ability as well, but his passing is far more polished and NFL ready. He will be 23 on draft day and through most of his first season, but so was Joe Burrow, and he's turned out pretty well even with a fairly bad injury bug thus far in his career. Steichen seems to want a QB similar to Jalen Hurts, and while the body type is not similar (Daniels is built more like Lamar Jackson), the skillset is.

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I didn't like the approach that led to drafting AR (mostly because it could've led to drafting Levis)

What approach? How do you know their approach? Were you in the room with Ballard? How could it have led to drafting Levis, considering he was still on the board and they drafted AR not Levis?

Originally Posted by Dam8610

and I don't like that he now has a recurring shoulder separation injury.

How do you know its recurring? It happened once.

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I also like the skillset that Daniels brings, he probably has every bit of the speed AR has, and most of the playmaking running ability as well, but his passing is far more polished and NFL ready.

Maybe but given the stuff you're imagining you know in this post I think I'll move on. Plus they aren't giving up on AR.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

What approach? How do you know their approach? Were you in the room with Ballard? How could it have led to drafting Levis, considering he was still on the board and they drafted AR not Levis?

Go watch Ballard's post draft (maybe post Day 1?) press conference, he talks about it. Basically said they didn't particularly like any of the QBs more than any of the others and so were content to sit at 4 and take whoever fell to them. He said they would've drafted Levis had someone traded up to 3 for AR. That's a shit strategy IMO, especially when dealing with the most important position in all of professional sports. Your strategy for that position should be to find the player you think is the best and move heaven and earth to get him.

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

How do you know its recurring? It happened once.

Go watch the Season 4 of the Netflix series "QB1: Beyond the Lights", it shows AR suffering the same AC Joint injury, they even call it that.

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

Maybe but given the stuff you're imagining you know in this post I think I'll move on. Plus they aren't giving up on AR.

Not imagining it, just did more research than you.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Go watch the Season 4 of the Netflix series "QB1: Beyond the Lights", it shows AR suffering the same AC Joint injury, they even call it that.

The dude was not having surgery before. Now that he has the resources of an NFL team, he has had the surgery.

[Oldcolt]

Dam is once again talking through his ass. He, and none of us, has any idea if it was the same injury. It was an injury to the AC joint, but doubtful if it was the same extent. Furthermore it would make complete sense to watch after the first injury if it wasn't to severe. Once it reoccurred that joint had proven it has a propensity to be damaged and a permanent repair was done. It is taken care of and will most likely be meaningless for the rest of his career, if other athletes are any example.