Wentz Getting Cut? Maybe

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rm1369

If I told you a team was on its 5th different starting QB in 5 years, lacked a pass rush, and had issues at LT would you assume it was a successful team?

I would tell you it sounds like your GM sucks.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by JAFF

And how has he played in BIG games?

I had to look it up...he is 1-3 in the playoffs, but to be fair he has played on some very mediocre Washington and Minnesota teams. He would probably cost too much for the Colts anyway, unless they could trade Wentz in the process.

If the Colts defense can continue to improve and Jonathan stays healthy, and say they can add another sure handed WR or TE, our QB won't be expected to carry the team to victory each Sunday, but he will need to be accurate, be smart, and not be a turnover machine. I'm still on the fence as to whether Wentz can be that guy, I wish he would speak up, I'd like to know what he is willing to do to improve his game for next season!

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

I would tell you it sounds like your GM sucks.

It would tell you that the GM didnt tank a season to get one of the top five picks in the draft

The Colts were winning without an elite Qb. That takes talent.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by JAFF

And how has Kirk Cousins played in BIG games ???

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I had to look it up ...... he is 1-3 in the playoffs, but to be fair he has played on some very mediocre Washington and Minnesota teams. He would probably cost too much for the Colts anyway, unless they could trade Wentz in the process.

If the Colts defense can continue to improve and Jonathan stays healthy, and say they can add another sure handed WR or TE, our QB won't be expected to carry the team to victory each Sunday, but he will need to be accurate, be smart, and not be a turnover machine. I'm still on the fence as to whether Wentz can be that guy, I wish he would speak up, I'd like to know what he is willing to do to improve his game for next season !!!

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Also, to be fair to Cousins, one of those 3 losses came in his rookie season when he had only played in one game prior to that playoff game ...... Robert Griffin III was the Rookie of the year for the Redskins that year, and also started the playoff game in which the Redskins lost. Griffin III led the Redskins to a 14-0 lead before suffering a severe knee injury. At that point, Cousins entered the game and went 3-for-10 for only 31 yards, as the Seahawks outscored the Redskins 24-0 for the remainder of that game. So yes, he was awful in that game ...... but he also essentially had no pro experience prior to that game, and wasn't expected to play at all before he was forced into action because of Griffin III's knee injury.



Robert Griffin III’s Knee Injury Brings Painful End to Brilliant Season

(By Mark Maske)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...dfa_story.html

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[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by JAFF

It would tell you that the GM didnt tank a season to get one of the top five picks in the draft

The Colts were winning without an elite Qb. That takes talent.

The Colts sent 7 to the Pro Bowl. The Colts lost their final 2 games knowing all they had to do was win against one of the worst teams in NFL history and still crapped the bed. The Colts led the league in rushing. The Colts led the league in turn over differential. The Colts didn't even make the playoffs.

Something is not right with this organization. Either we have a very bad GM, a terrible head coach, or we have two guys that are very very pedestrian at what they do and together they aren't getting the job done. Neither Ballard nor Reich are difference makers in terms of an organization. Ballard is too bought in to his build by draft near exclusively mentality and Frank, well Frank seems to be way too invested in Frank's desire to provide reclamation than winning championships.

I have no desire to see either one of them continuing to be in charge of this organization, I see nothing from either one that tells me they are the entity that will put us over the top and I expect us to be about where we are right now so long as these two remain in their respective positions.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

The Colts sent 7 to the Pro Bowl. The Colts lost their final 2 games knowing all they had to do was win against one of the worst teams in NFL history and still crapped the bed. The Colts led the league in rushing. The Colts led the league in turn over differential. The Colts didn't even make the playoffs.

Something is not right with this organization. Either we have a very bad GM, a terrible head coach, or we have two guys that are very very pedestrian at what they do and together they aren't getting the job done. Neither Ballard nor Reich are difference makers in terms of an organization. Ballard is too bought in to his build by draft near exclusively mentality and Frank, well Frank seems to be way too invested in Frank's desire to provide reclamation than winning championships.

I have no desire to see either one of them continuing to be in charge of this organization, I see nothing from either one that tells me they are the entity that will put us over the top and I expect us to be about where we are right now so long as these two remain in their respective positions.

While we, the fans, are disappointed, its an over reaction to do a total reset.

1. There is a lot of talent on this team. 9 wins 7 pro bowlers.
2. The GM has a good track record, all of the present talent he has brought in.

3. Reich has been a winner as a player, and as a coach. He has been on a super Bowl team and 4 Super Bowls as a player. He has engineered 2 huge comebacks as a college player and a pro.

4. I think Jim Irsay is a great owner.

I think Irsay loves a challenge. If he chooses to stand pat and put a fire under some butts, I want to see what happens. You make steel with a hot fire under pressure

[Puck]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

The Colts sent 7 to the Pro Bowl. The Colts lost their final 2 games knowing all they had to do was win against one of the worst teams in NFL history and still crapped the bed. The Colts led the league in rushing. The Colts led the league in turn over differential. The Colts didn't even make the playoffs.

Something is not right with this organization. Either we have a very bad GM, a terrible head coach, or we have two guys that are very very pedestrian at what they do and together they aren't getting the job done. Neither Ballard nor Reich are difference makers in terms of an organization. Ballard is too bought in to his build by draft near exclusively mentality and Frank, well Frank seems to be way too invested in Frank's desire to provide reclamation than winning championships.

I have no desire to see either one of them continuing to be in charge of this organization, I see nothing from either one that tells me they are the entity that will put us over the top and I expect us to be about where we are right now so long as these two remain in their respective positions.

We do not have a bad GM. We do not have a bad HC. We are in QB purgatory. It happens more often than not. Sure blame the FO for the Wentz debacle this yr. Then you would have to blame about 28 GM's/HCs for not being perfect.

Choppped. We have history. Epic battles. Still like and respect you, but dude let it go. Set your sites on the officials in the SB or better yet the SB halftime committee. They are in more need of ridicule than the Colts FO And besides your just gonna keep beating your head against the wall for no reason.

Anyway Luck is coming back so no worries

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Puck

We do not have a bad GM. We do not have a bad HC. We are in QB purgatory. It happens more often than not. Sure blame the FO for the Wentz debacle this yr. Then you would have to blame about 28 GM's/HCs for not being perfect.

Choppped. We have history. Epic battles. Still like and respect you, but dude let it go. Set your sites on the officials in the SB or better yet the SB halftime committee. They are in more need of ridicule than the Colts FO And besides your just gonna keep beating your head against the wall for no reason.

Anyway Luck is coming back so no worries

This skinny guy ain't coming back...besides his wife won't let him!

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

It would tell you that the GM didnt tank a season to get one of the top five picks in the draft

The Colts were winning without an elite Qb. That takes talent.

No, it tells you that your FO has done a shitty job of filling/backfilling the most important positions. And it's not just a QB that we're hurting. '21 was the 5th year for Ballard, and the fact the we don't have at least a decent pass rush is a failure on his part. Same with that we only have 1 receiver on the team that's above NFL average.

Ballard's obviously done some good things and is certainly a huge upgrade over his predecessor, but he's not the rock star that some people think he is.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Puck

We do not have a bad GM. We do not have a bad HC. We are in QB purgatory. It happens more often than not. Sure blame the FO for the Wentz debacle this yr. Then you would have to blame about 28 GM's/HCs for not being perfect.

Choppped. We have history. Epic battles. Still like and respect you, but dude let it go. Set your sites on the officials in the SB or better yet the SB halftime committee. They are in more need of ridicule than the Colts FO And besides your just gonna keep beating your head against the wall for no reason.

Anyway Luck is coming back so no worries

Man he looks like he is 53 years old.... wtf is going on here?