Vaccination rate

[rcubed]

I saw numerous interviews with people, sometimes vets, talk about laying their life on the line for anyone in America, saying they would die for their fellow Americans, yet refused to do something simple like put a mask on to protect the people around them. Such a weird mindset.


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[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

The longer we can drag this out, means the more it can politicized into future elections.

It's really sad that we can't come together as a country at a time of need. I'm fairly certain that the current generation could not have polarized and in a non-bipartisan way to do the right thing, during trying times like WW II, or any other crisis we have faced in the last 60+ years.

We seem to like to go after each unless there is a unifying event. Most of the country did not want to enter ww2, remembering the staggering losses of ww1. It took the attack at Pearl Harbor to do it. So I guess the lesson is that covid needs to blow up a naval base?

I do wonder if we would be able to eliminate diseases like polio and tetanus today though. There is so much mis-information. Just one person can cause harm by going around and spreading it on social media.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

We seem to like to go after each unless there is a unifying event. Most of the country did not want to enter ww2, remembering the staggering losses of ww1. It took the attack at Pearl Harbor to do it. So I guess the lesson is that covid needs to blow up a naval base?

I do wonder if we would be able to eliminate diseases like polio and tetanus today though. There is so much mis-information. Just one person can cause harm by going around and spreading it on social media.

I cannot understand how anyone would believe anything on facebook. Its the largest collection of fucktards and ego maniacs talking out their collective asses. Same for twitter. Nothing smart happens there

[Oldcolt]

73% of NFL players have been vaccinated. Colts are less than 50%

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

73% of NFL players have been vaccinated. Colts are less than 50%

Fucking embarrassing. Trade Leonard for a first and change, we need better leaders, he is a fucking turd. Great player, but a moron.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

We seem to like to go after each unless there is a unifying event. Most of the country did not want to enter ww2, remembering the staggering losses of ww1. It took the attack at Pearl Harbor to do it. So I guess the lesson is that covid needs to blow up a naval base?

I do wonder if we would be able to eliminate diseases like polio and tetanus today though. There is so much mis-information. Just one person can cause harm by going around and spreading it on social media.

The 600,000 + deaths is greater than combat deaths in WW1 & WW2, combined. We as a society dont believe bad things will happen to us, until it punches us in the face. It took far too long for America to get its collective shit together about the AIDS epidemic. No one cared until it got into the blood supply, by then it was way too late.

The Republican party thinks that they can take back the House next year, but I’m not sure there will be enough republicans to win an election. Look at a political map and a covid map. The deep red states are low vaccination, the opposite for democratic states with high vaccination rates.

The stubborn, gullible, and stupid are now the ones who are dying from covid. Every covid death right now can be avoided.

[Ironshaft]

Originally Posted by woodyscolts

Yeah except it is really your body your choice to infect anybody else you come in contact with, unfortunately it is then not their choice. I agree that it should not be forced on anybody but it is sad how many stupid people out there will not get the vaccine and then still do not wear masks indoors. My wife has MS and has to take a drug to knock her immune system down. She took the vaccine and then 3 weeks later got an antibody test and because of being immune deficient she has no protection. There are a lot of people out there that the vaccine might not work because of having a compromised immune system. If you choose to not get the vaccine then have the balls to still wear masks indoors!

A. Sorry to hear about your wife.

B. Agree 100%. I am all for the protocols the NFL has put into place for those players/staff who choose not to get vaccinated. Mask up, social distance and wash your fricking hands.

But, this is still America (for the moment) and folks get to make choices and choose to deal with the consequences.

Yes, those NFL players who choose not to get the vaccine will be put at a competitive disadvantage to those who do. If they don't perform or are not available to play, then they will be demoted/cut/effect future earnings. That is the consequence.

Yes, it may also effect the overall team win rate. But we don't fine or force folks to work out in the off-season under a monitored, body-cam style system to ensure that they are at peak performance for training camp either. It is about individual player's choice.

[Ironshaft]

Originally Posted by rcubed

I saw numerous interviews with people, sometimes vets, talk about laying their life on the line for anyone in America, saying they would die for their fellow Americans, yet refused to do something simple like put a mask on to protect the people around them. Such a weird mindset.

My guess is that if folks are CONVINCED of the threat, then the American mindset is capably of incredible sacrifice.

Alas, in today' politically charged world, the 'evidence" of any viewpoint about COVID is horribly compromised.

Someone earlier said that we should be able to trust the testimony of certified doctors to give us the truth but, unfortunately, time and again ideology has been proven to be more important than scientific derived facts.

The Republican party thinks that they can take back the House next year, but I’m not sure there will be enough republicans to win an election. Look at a political map and a covid map. The deep red states are low vaccination, the opposite for democratic states with high vaccination rates.

Look at the political map and the mortality map, however. The vast majority of deaths are not happening in red states.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

73% of NFL players have been vaccinated. Colts are less than 50%

I think you may be mixing two different types of stats here.

The 73+% number is the percentage of players across the league that have received their first dose of the vaccine.

Whereas the team numbers are the percentage of players that are fully vaccinated.

At the beginning of July, Ballard had indicated that more Colts were getting their first vaccine shot so he said the overall team numbers would improve - but you have that 3 - 4 week wait for the second dose if they opt for the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.

(That being said, it is also true that at the present time, the Colts are one of the bottom two teams in the league as far as the percentage being fully vaccinated.)

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JAFF

I cannot understand how anyone would believe anything on facebook. Its the largest collection of fucktards and ego maniacs talking out their collective asses. Same for twitter. Nothing smart happens there

I don’t know why but there is an anti-science anti-intellectual movement now. Where people get on and think their ignorance is just as valid as someone who is trained in that area. I see people reference peer reviewed papers with an anonymous blog off the Internet spouting conspiracies. It doesn’t help that Facebook’s algorithm keeps feeding you what you like. So basically if you like the idea aliens run the world through Bigfoot and cows, then you will keep seeing items that support that notion. It’s like an indoctrination tool.