Quenton Nelson (G-ND) Rd #1 Pick #6

[Spike]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Understood. Ballard appears to agree with Race that it was better to overpay in draft capital than in salary. I just disagree. I’d rather have Norwell or Pugh and Roquan Smith than Nelson and cap space.

I have to wonder what the Colts offered Norwell. He reportedly signed a five-year, $66.5 million contract. 30 million guaranteed. Even if the Colts offered more, it's possible that Norwell wanted to play for a contender. That and the fact that no state tax in Florida is a major plus. Really wanted that guy on the Colts though.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Spike

I have to wonder what the Colts offered Norwell. He reportedly signed a five-year, $66.5 million contract. 30 million guaranteed. Even if the Colts offered more, it's possible that Norwell wanted to play for a contender. That and the fact that no state tax in Florida is a major plus. Really wanted that guy on the Colts though.

From what I heard on NFL radio. the Colts were a contender in the discussion, along with a couple other teams, then the jags came in and blew the offers out of the water by a lot. I don't think Ballard wanted to pay that much. But the analysts on the radio think it was too high as well. That he wasn't worth that much and that he wasn't quite as good as the numbers he was getting. That his performance this last year was a little inflated and he was not as good as people thought. Anyway that was their opinion.

Ballard has said repeatedly he doesn't want to go into FA why building the team culture with draft picks. That he will later on buy not as foundation pieces. He wants an established culture before he starts bringing in veterans from other teams. I think that is bc I think the culture of this team has gotten soft. I heard several interviews with Allen and Dorsett allude to it several times. That guys got away with things, that effort was lacking. Anyway, that what Ballard said, so far he has done everything he has said he was going to do.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Butter

No one is complaining about drafting a Big Ugly, it is where he was drafted. You are better than this kind of bullshit.

Look, we have drafted them later in the draft before and have gotten a bunch of JAGs. I would have preferred to go with defense, but if we get one on the OLine, I am not going to complain.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by rm1369

If you think it’s anything like that then you don’t get the argument at all. Or you are purposely being an ass. Cap space has a value. Draft picks have a value. Considering the current abundance of cap space and the scarcity of top 10 picks I simply place a higher value on draft picks. If you don’t then fine. But don’t act stupid about it.

I get the argument. Completely, I just disagree with how far some take it.

All I am saying is that if you have money, you don't spend it on the first cool toy you see. Especially at an auction where emotions run high. Especially when said to also has a say in the matter.

[sherck]

Left OT = Anthony Castonzo, Joe Haeg
Left OG = Quinton Nelson, Matt Slauson
OC = Ryan Kelly, DeShawn Bond
Right OG = Braden Smith, Jack Mewhort
Right OT = Denzelle Good, Le'Raven Clark

Weakest link is right OT.

However, at times, all three of Good, Haeg and Clark have played well there so I am pretty hopeful that one of the three will rise to the top and seize the position.

Then there is the possibility of seeing if either Mewhort or Smith can slide out and nail down right OT if that would make the strongest line combination.

Starting an "all backup" O-Line of Haeg / Slauson / Bond / Mewhort / Clark would be a bit ugly but would not, by far, be the worst backup O-Line in the league.

All have starting experience and all have shown, at times, that they deserve to be in the league. For Bond and Clark, it was only for 4 games each as starters but all the rest have done farily well in the league.

Hopefully, a new, more intelligent, offense system will help not only our specality players but also our O-Line to be more effective.

"Earl Gray." Fricking love that!

Walk Worthy,

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by FatDT

What a completely irrelevant and non-football-related analogy you’ve come up with here. Really, really stupid. You’re being a real dipshit Race.

I know it is not an analogy that fits well, given that money comes in much better for teams and that they have a cap and a floor. Maybe I should explain it this way: Say you want a new iPhone, but a new one is coming out in a few months that will have a longer battery and longer life expectancy. Do you buy what you can now or wait for a better one next year?

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by sherck

Left OT = Anthony Castonzo, Joe Haeg
Left OG = Quinton Nelson, Matt Slauson
OC = Ryan Kelly, DeShawn Bond
Right OG = Braden Smith, Jack Mewhort
Right OT = Denzelle Good, Le'Raven Clark

Weakest link is right OT.

However, at times, all three of Good, Haeg and Clark have played well there so I am pretty hopeful that one of the three will rise to the top and seize the position.

Then there is the possibility of seeing if either Mewhort or Smith can slide out and nail down right OT if that would make the strongest line combination.

Starting an "all backup" O-Line of Haeg / Slauson / Bond / Mewhort / Clark would be a bit ugly but would not, by far, be the worst backup O-Line in the league.

All have starting experience and all have shown, at times, that they deserve to be in the league. For Bond and Clark, it was only for 4 games each as starters but all the rest have done farily well in the league.

Hopefully, a new, more intelligent, offense system will help not only our specality players but also our O-Line to be more effective.

"Earl Gray." Fricking love that!

Walk Worthy,

Can always slide protection or chip on the right side to help out that tackle. This is probably the most confident that I’ve been in a Colts line since 2006. They’ll do some damage.

And after seeing the drafts by the Jags and Titans, it’s probably for the best that the Colts got two early guards.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Can always slide protection or chip on the right side to help out that tackle. This is probably the most confident that I’ve been in a Colts line since 2006. They’ll do some damage.

And after seeing the drafts by the Jags and Titans, it’s probably for the best that the Colts got two early guards.

These two guards are reportedly very athletic, so that is a huge plus. Maybe we bring back the stretch play.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

I know it is not an analogy that fits well, given that money comes in much better for teams and that they have a cap and a floor. Maybe I should explain it this way: Say you want a new iPhone, but a new one is coming out in a few months that will have a longer battery and longer life expectancy. Do you buy what you can now or wait for a better one next year?

But you’re taking it too far. Ballard would have been happy to sign Norwell at his preferred price. These things are malleable to some extent while still being strategically consistent.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

I know it is not an analogy that fits well, given that money comes in much better for teams and that they have a cap and a floor. Maybe I should explain it this way: Say you want a new iPhone, but a new one is coming out in a few months that will have a longer battery and longer life expectancy. Do you buy what you can now or wait for a better one next year?

Come on man, give up on the BS analogies. Still does not have anything to do with my issue. I value top 10 draft picks more than cap space and you disagree. As far as where this line of conversation came from, that’s the whole argument. Let’s leave it at that.