Official Ravens suck Game day thread

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

That's inflated because of a running QB like Jackson will always add 50+. But yeah Henry had a good day like he mostly does. The inability to stop the passing allowed the run lanes to be wider and that is what I'm more worried about. And the passing was easier for them because there is no tape on their system. Cause and effect casused a cascade failure.

Henry averaged 6 yards a carry on 24 carries. With a long of 32 yards, which means he didn’t have a 75 yard run inflating his average. They ran the ball at will against us.

That’s just embarrassing.

I’m willing to entertain the possibility that this had more to do with no one knowing anything about Doyle and his tendencies. That’s at least a possibility.

Next Sunday against KC will tell us a lot.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

During the last preseason game they interviewed Carlie Irsay for about 15 minutes, it sounded like she loves Ballard, I think we may have to wait until he retires.

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Damn!!!!!

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Henry averaged 6 yards a carry on 24 carries. With a long of 32 yards, which means he didn’t have a 75 yard run inflating his average. They ran the ball at will against us.

That’s just embarrassing.

I’m willing to entertain the possibility that this had more to do with no one knowing anything about Doyle and his tendencies. That’s at least a possibility.

Next Sunday against KC will tell us a lot.

I thought they were bottling him up well at first. Lots of short runs. He wasn't the reason they were in a position to score at first. But the leaks in the passing game made the safeties and LBS keep dropping back more. If you can't run an eight-man front against him you are in trouble. I also think everything went wrong at the beginning and things snowballed.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Henry averaged 6 yards a carry on 24 carries. With a long of 32 yards, which means he didn’t have a 75 yard run inflating his average. They ran the ball at will against us.

That’s just embarrassing.

I’m willing to entertain the possibility that this had more to do with no one knowing anything about Doyle and his tendencies. That’s at least a possibility.

Next Sunday against KC will tell us a lot.

They just did whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted to do it. I kept saying it last year and I think it is just going to be a repeat of the same, Lou Anarumo was leading one of the very worst defenses in football for several years in Cincy. Everyone was complaining that he was ruining the career of Burrow because the defense was historically bad. Somehow, some way, we think he is going to be good here- based on what exactly? He sucks!

[CletusPyle]

Wentz just kicked Green Bay's ass back to Wisconsin!

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Well if you are measuring the worth of opinions, I know Polian's is worth more than yours. Do you think your opinion is worth a couple wins.

Funny, I’m not the one claiming opinions matter more than results. You are. Your defense of the longest tenured losing GM without major playoff success is that Polian likes him. That’s it. And based on that you question my knowledge and ability to have an opinion on the job Ballard has done.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Hankins? Well first of all, a new GM comes in and gets rid of the contracts of the old GM. That's standard operating procedure.

With all of your superior football knowledge I would have expected you to know that Ballard signed Hankins, not Grigson. Maybe Polian hasn’t told you yet.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Second, Hankins also didn't fit Eberflus' system as a NT we were paying 30 million. It had nothing to do with veterancy and was about positional fit and salary cap.

Third, we replaced him with 4th round pick Grover Stewert who has become one of the best NT's in the league. I would say thats a win.

Eberflus' system wanted zone corners and you don't have to spend a lot of money on zone corners unlike man corners. Hence we just moved to man and we are spending a lot of money on man corners now. Different coaches and systems place differing importance on position groups.

Damn thank you for letting me know that different coaches run different schemes that require different player skill sets. I was completely unaware. The only issues is it has fuck all to do with my comment. When Ballard was questioned during that time (there were other vets cut) about going so young is when he played out his philosophy. That’s what I was pointing you to because you claimed I made it up. Never mind it has also been plainly obvious based on his roster construction. But again, thank you for letting me know about different skills for different schemes. My mind is literally blown.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Yeah Dayo and Paye, we drafted two big bodied DE's that can play the run and hold the edge like Eberflus wanted. We used rookies to fill a position group like EVERY other team has to do at some point. You keep expecting the Colts to not have to do that. They are not a unicorn that gets to ignore the standard practices the rest of the league also follows.

Since it’s such a common practice, please give me a few examples of 4-3 teams with playoff aspirations going into a season with no DE on the roster with double digit sacks for their entire career. Not having a double digit season. We are talking cumulative for their career. Oh I’m sure it’s happened a few times I’m just not aware of it being such a standard practice as you claim it to be. And how did those seasons turn out?

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

You think you are saying something here, but it's just saying "I don't like to listen to the opinions of people that know more than me."

No, what I’m saying is that no one is always right. By your definition Polian could never make a bad decision or call. He’s never made a bad draft pick or hiring. He can’t because just the fact he believes someone good makes them good - regardless of their actual performance.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Funny thing is I'm not necessarily opposed to moving on from Ballard. Eventually every tenure runs its course. I just get irritated by the uninformed drivel that comes out of the Colts fanbase because Indiana is an insular state and the fans only seem to follow one team and don't pay attention to football in general. Well, maybe two teams, since the Hoosiers miraculously won a championship.

So somehow you think anyone that doesn’t accept Ballard as a good GM is an ignorant and their opinion drivel. That’s interesting when the god damn facts show that anyone with his resume in an actual football knowledgeable city would have been fired. That’s fucking provable fact. So you can fuck off with your high and mighty bullshit.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Josh McDaniels was one of the most pursued assistant coaches in the entire league. You act like that was out of left field, it wasn't. He was turning down teams every year. Now I lived in Denver at the time he was there. I personally saw what he did and thought he was a bad coach. But not the rest of the league, he was on every team's top five list of coaches except maybe the Broncos. I thought they dodged a bullet there anyway.

Damn Chrome I’m very confused. How could you have an opinion on McDaniels that differed from NFL execs? Do you think you know more than them? You’ve repeatedly now told me how it’s impossible to have an opinion different than someone established in the NFL. Does that not apply to you? Only anyone with an opinion different than you I guess.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

You don't know who sets a depth chart, you don't how basic stuff in football works and blame the GM for everything. Even on this team. You dismiss the opinions of guys that worked in the field at the highest level for their entire lives simply because it doesn't match your perception. You are an example of whats wrong with the internet, giving voice to the uninformed and everyone thinks they are an expert. I bet you walk into the hospital and tell doctors how to perform a surgery. You've yet to prove your opinion should be valued at all.

So now back to my question, did Ballard lead the hiring process and recommend (effectively hire) the coaches whose decisions you are shielding him from? The exception of course being Saturday. And you are right I’m very lacking in roster knowledge, but I’m pretty sure a coach can’t start a player not on the roster. Or am I wrong about that? Please let me know. It’s all very confusing I’m so happy to have you to explain it to me.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Sure, you are a nostradamus of football predictions. Should you hang a banner?

See if I hadn’t been saying it it would all be hindsight and piling on. That I’ve said it and been right means you get to claim I think I know everything. There is no winning. You are on a message board for opinions and discussion claiming there is no right opinion but yours and Polians when we have actual fucking results and NFL history to say how wrong you are. Everyone with Ballard’s actual job and resume has been fired. But somehow you are smarter than every other team. It’s you, the Colts, and Polian that are the genius’. Not the actual teams that have had more success in the same time period.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Wentz just kicked Green Bay's ass back to Wisconsin !!! l

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_bB0AkoP-o

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[Hoopsdoc]

Paye had 2 sacks yesterday for the Raiders. Oof.

Granted, he never had Crosby on the other side in Indy but still……oof.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Paye had 2 sacks yesterday for the Raiders. Oof.

Granted, he never had Crosby on the other side in Indy but still……oof.

Crosby drawing attention will obviously help him, but the Dolphins are likely a very bad team. And Willis is known for holding the ball and taking unnecessary sacks. Raiders had 5. I wouldn’t think much about it yet. Will be interesting to track though