The Daniel Jones effect is difficult to quantify

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If AR doesn't play against Houston in 2023, the Colts lose. Yes, he left early, but he left with a 14-0 lead in a game that ended 31-20. Regardless, he's in his age 23 season this year, there's still a lot of time for him to become a good QB.

You beat me to it. Also, he left the Tits game w/ ~4 minutes left in the 1st half and with a 10-6 lead. Not that Minshew didn't do a good job in relief and deserves a Save, but I don't think you take away the win from AR there either.

Some other thoughts on the discussions in the thread:

Jones was definitely much better in week 1 than I thought he'd be, and I'll eat that crow. Hope he can keep this level of play up. We'll see how he does against a better D where there's now some game film on how Steichen wants to use him.

I'd be shocked if we trade AR, and I don't think we should at this point. We'd only save ~$4M in cap space. Now if Jones proves this year that he should be our guy and we decide to move on from AR in the offseason then so be it (this will save us ~$5M in cap space for '26).

Something else with trading AR is that we'd probably bring in a 3rd QB for emergency QB duties. Not seeing where Bean signed anywhere, so I guess we could just bring him back to at least the PS.

[Dam8610]

Ballard outlined his plan. It's the Smith/Mahomes strategy the Chiefs did. Let's hope it works out as well.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Ballard outlined his plan. It's the Smith/Mahomes strategy the Chiefs did. Let's hope it works out as well.

I hope Ballard has the balls to go through with this, if AR does his part.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

He kinda reminds me a little of Philip Rivers !!

that's kind of a shot at rivers. dj will come back to earth some. rivers is a borderline hall of famer and will probably get in

[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. BRONCOS, 9/14)


This was the second consecutive game in which the Colts had 0 punts and 0 turnovers ....... I don't know whether or not that's a record for professional football (1920 - Present.)


As an aside, the Colts did turn the ball over on downs twice today, but that does not fall under the turnover category.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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The Colts’ Daniel Jones Problem Is Quickly Becoming Impossible to Ignore

(By Lee Vowell)

https://horseshoeheroes.com/indianap...ossible-ignore


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Daniel Jones is so rude ...... after flaming out with the New York Giants, he was released last season and eventually signed with the Minnesota Vikings. He didn't play. Suddenly an NFL nomad, the quarterback signed with the Indianapolis Colts this past offseason.

Instead of giving in to being QB2, he decided he would be good from his first practice on. He has not stopped being good, though that comes as a surprise to most NFL fans. If Jones was bad with the terrible Giants, then he would always be bad.

As all Colts fans will attest, that theory would be a lie. Jones hasn't just been good with Indy this season; he has been MVP-worthy. In Week 6, he had a terrible interception and should have had another, but he also had the poise to lead the team to a come-from-behind win over the Arizona Cardinals.


Daniel Jones Continues to Rudely Be Good for the Indianapolis Colts


Indy now sits at 5-1, and in sole first place of the AFC South after the Jacksonville Jaguars lost to the Seattle Seahawks in Week 6. The reason why Indy is in first place is that it is good. Another reason is that Daniel Jones is great.

Even with the interception against the Cardinals, his quarterback rating was 101. He completed 22-of 30-passes for 212 yards and 2 touchdowns. Just as importantly, he ran 5 times for 20 yards and a touchdown ...... he was in full control of what his team needed, and Indy would have lost had they not had Jones.

Anthony Richardson kept getting injured in his first 2 seasons, and got hurt in pre-game warmups for Indianapolis ahead of Week 6. The team cannot count on Richardson. They likely weren't sure they could count on Daniel Jones this much ahead of the season.

Now Jones is a player who has to be re-signed, and he is not going to be cheap ...... $100 Million-or-more over the next 3 years is the most likely scenario, if not more. Blame the quarterback for that, though ...... how dare he play so unexpectedly well for the Indianapolis Colts ??? Let's just hope that he keeps doing that.

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[Colts And Orioles]

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(vs. CHARGERS, 10/19)



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[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Kray007

PFF, as is their wont, assigned him a passing grade for the game…66.5, which ranked him 19th among Quarterbacks after week 1. Digging into their mountain of stats, I discover that only 3.3 percent of his passes were considered big time throws. His expected completion percentage of 75.9% was exactly the same as his actual completion percentage, which means that nobody was dropping balls. Under pressure, he completed 4 of 5 passes. Against the blitz, that number dropped to 68 percent and change.

All of which leads me to the not unsurprising revelation that there’s more that goes into playing the position than anything you can glean from statistics.

Daniel Jones doesn’t bring elite traits to the table. He doesn’t have an arm that will wow you, he isn’t a riverboat gambler. There’s nothing flashy about his game, we’re never going to see a jaw dropping, Anthony Richardson moment when he spins away from pressure, stumbles, and launches a 65 yard TD strike to Alec Pierce.

What he brings to the table is reliability and an unsurpassed work ethic. He recognizes defenses, makes solid pre snap reads, and manages to exploit an opponent’s weaknesses. He keeps the chains moving and extends drives, milking every last play for maximum benefit. If the choice is between forcing the ball into tight coverage 40 yards downfield and settling for a 10 yard crossing play with an 80 percent chance of success, he opts for the easy 1st down. He’s accurate and throws a ball that’s easy to catch; everything isn’t a 98 mph fast ball.

In other words, he’s a pro; and, sometimes, that’s the difference between losing 17-10 and winning 33-8.

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(7 WEEKS LATER)


As a Colts fan, my 2 biggest fears are ......


1) l Daniel Jones getting injured.


2) l The Kansas City Chiefs.


In my rat's ass of an opinion, the Chiefs are the biggest obstacle to the Colts making a deep playoff run and/or the Colts advancing to the Super Bowl. Presuming that the Colts do make the playoffs, I hope that they would not have to play the Chiefs until the AFC Championship game (if at all.)

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[Oldcolt]

How in the hell isn't Daniel Jones elite? Name one thing, one, that an 'elite' QB can do that Jones doesn't do? He is the best QB on the best offense in a QB driven league. He makes every throw, read defenses as good as anyone, moves well in the pocket (doesn't get sacked) and is in complete sync with his head coach. He is the best QB in the league right now and only prejudices from asshole New York based writers keep people for admitting it. It won't change until Feb when he wins the next and his first Super Bowl

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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(7 WEEKS LATER)


As a Colts fan, my 2 biggest fears are ......


1) l Daniel Jones getting injured.


2) l The Kansas City Chiefs.


In my rat's ass of an opinion, the Chiefs are the biggest obstacle to the Colts making a deep playoff run and/or the Colts advancing to the Super Bowl. Presuming that the Colts do make the playoffs, I hope that they would not have to play the Chiefs until the AFC Championship game (if at all.)

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The post-Luck Colts seem to have Mahomes's number. Even the 2022 team beat them.