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Old 08-21-2025, 10:03 PM
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Come on, no one can take you seriously with that argument based on the super small sample.
Where’s Devito now?
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Old 08-21-2025, 10:13 PM
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Come on, no one can take you seriously with that argument based on the super small sample.
Why not? It clearly shows how unbelievably bad Jones was in NY.
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Old 08-22-2025, 11:14 AM
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I’m not sure what the gotcha is here. Less than a year ago Daniel Jones was playing scout team safety for the Giants and then was on the Vikings practice squad. He was not significantly better than the people he was replaced with regardless of where they are now. Right or wrong, if Jones wasn’t a first round pick he may be out of the league at this point. Instead he’s a starter. And yes I recognize the same may apply to AR in the future. That doesn’t change the point about Jones performance.

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My two cents. Clearly DJ outworked AR off the field. But Giants fans said that’s what he does. It’s on the field where he folds, he has trouble executing and hesitates at key seconds. Steichen runs a fairly friendly scheme though. So I’d like to see how he does with it. I expect Pittman and the TEs to have a big year. Less so AP and AD. I think Steichen believes he can get game management out of jones with me checkdown using the system.

There is something limiting AR, maybe it’s brains, maybe it’s work ethic, maybe it’s inexperience and he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. Naive has been used a lot and I wonder if Jim forced them to play him. I’m also not on the blowout up train. Unless you have the number one pick, a hall of fame GM coming in, and a great QB sitting there. I’ve seen too many times where blowing it up just makes things worse.

I also don’t think this is the last we’ve seen of AR. DJ has never played a full season. 60 QB started last year. Odds are we will see him play. I’m still hopeful for him to get it together. I’m pulling for him. I know it’s a long shot and he always was. But if he does develop he would be a huge weapon in the league.

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My two cents ...... clearly DJ outworked AR off the field.


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Richardson lost 10 pounds in the off-season, and looked even more agile and athletic than he already was.


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Anthony Richardson appears to have lost some weight since the last time I saw him.


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Richardson lost 10 pounds in the off-season, and looked even more agile and athletic than he already was.

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There's more to work than working out and ditching Skittles. It's great that he did that, don't get me wrong. Spending the hours to dive into the playbook and study film is also work.

I agreed with the notion that if it was close, AR would get the nod. I still believe that, which tells me it wasn't close in their eyes.
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There's more to work than working out and ditching Skittles. It's great that he did that, don't get me wrong. Spending the hours to dive into the playbook and study film is also work.



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Yes, and neither one of us knows that Jones did that more than Richardson did this off-season.

We do know for a fact that Richardson lost 10 pounds this off-season, and is lighter and more athletic than he was in the first place.

I'm sure that Jones worked diligently in the off-season. Richardson may or may not have worked just as diligently. We do know that he certainly worked on his physical health.

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Tommy Devito played well for a month and then fell flat on his face. Lock went 1-1 in that season.

As i said before i don't think Jones is the saviour, i just think he is far more likely to produce something with a better supporting cast than he has ever had, than what AR has shown with this cast around him already.

I am not completely out on AR, he clearly has amazing arm talent and great running ability, but so far he has proven he can't read a defense, and that he is historically bad in terms of his accuracy!!
People keep saying how much potential AR has, but to me thats not his biggest issue. His biggest issue is he’s a running quarterback who cannot stay healthy.

Even if he figures it all out, we’d always be waiting for that next injury and we’d never have to wait to long.
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I’m not sure what the gotcha is here. Less than a year ago Daniel Jones was playing scout team safety for the Giants and then was on the Vikings practice squad. He was not significantly better than the people he was replaced with regardless of where they are now. Right or wrong, if Jones wasn’t a first round pick he may be out of the league at this point. Instead he’s a starter. And yes I recognize the same may apply to AR in the future. That doesn’t change the point about Jones performance.
A lot of quarterbacks get benched for a multitude of reasons, you’re never gonna convince me Tommy devito is-was-ever will be a better option at QB then Daniel Jones
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What I thought we were looking for in AR was improvement, not that he somehow magically learned how to read defenses without actually reading defenses in games. AR clearly was better than when we last saw him. I thought we were going to take our lumps and try and develop the man. So after 15 games that's done? When Steichen now says what he wants is a great game manager who can identify and read defenses, how is it even possible for AR to compete with a 6 year veteran if that is now what you want? And if that was so important to Steichen how in the hell did AR beat out Minshew and Ryan? It seems like a rudderless ship just hoping that something works. No real direction, no plan.
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