Seems it is gonna be D Jones

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Actually he's not. Jones is better runner, but Minshew is a better passer. Here's their career averages prorated to 17 games:

Jones: 64%, 3,541 yds, 17 TDs, 11 Ints, 6.5 Y/A, 529 ruyds, 4 TDs, 12 fmbls
Minshew: 63%, 3,443 yds, 20 TDs, 10 Ints, 6.9 Y/A, 196 ruyds, 1 TD, 10 fmbls

Also, I didn't say I would take Minshew over Jones straight up. That's at least debatable. I said that I would take Minshew +~$10M in cap space over Jones, which IMO isn't.



If Jones beats out AR then it won't take long for Jones to be benched for AR. Afterall Jones was benched for Tommy DeVito and Drew Lock.



It's not just Jones' shitty stats. It's that combined w/ guys like DeVito and Lock having outperformed him w/ the same talent around them.



Even if you support this move this still has to be a big concern. I didn't watch NYG play much this past season, but when I saw them play Jones was completely terrified of throwing the ball downfield. It was either a SNF or MNF game that really sticks out where the broadcast kept showing how his receivers were consistently open downfield and he had plenty of time to throw, but he would just dump the ball off in the flat on essentially every pass play.

Jones has similar passing stats and is a much better runner so yeah, he’s better than Minshew. Also has a much better arm.

I don’t really care about the cap space. It’s not like we’d use it to sign some all world player.

[Dam8610]

The only thing that upsets me about this signing is that Ballard said he was committing to bringing in QB competition for AR. To me, the only QB on the market that could've done that while also fitting Steichen's system was Justin Fields.

If Ballard had just been honest and said they were pursuing a high end backup for AR that would fit the system, Jones would make sense at that point. This signing makes his commentary about legitimate QB competition feel like lip service to an angry fanbase.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

The only thing that upsets me about this signing is that Ballard said he was committing to bringing in QB competition for AR. To me, the only QB on the market that could've done that while also fitting Steichen's system was Justin Fields.

If Ballard had just been honest and said they were pursuing a high end backup for AR that would fit the system, Jones would make sense at that point. This signing makes his commentary about legitimate QB competition feel like lip service to an angry fanbase.

It is hard to know who he had in mind, as it takes two to make a deal come to fruition.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Jones has similar passing stats and is a much better runner so yeah, he’s better than Minshew. Also has a much better arm.

I don’t really care about the cap space. It’s not like we’d use it to sign some all world player.

Minshew's better TD/Int ratio and Y/A is enough to make up for the difference in running IMO. And that extra cap space isn't as irrelevant as you think it is, since ~$10M can definitely be the difference between an ok FA signing and a great FA signing or can be used to shore things up. For example we could have used that cap space to have re-signed Kelly.

The only thing that upsets me about this signing is that Ballard said he was committing to bringing in QB competition for AR. To me, the only QB on the market that could've done that while also fitting Steichen's system was Justin Fields.

If Ballard had just been honest and said they were pursuing a high end backup for AR that would fit the system, Jones would make sense at that point. This signing makes his commentary about legitimate QB competition feel like lip service to an angry fanbase.

I don't know. Some folks on here have drank enough Jones Kool Aid to believe he's a shoe in to be our day 1 starter and possibly our franchise QB for the next decade. Obviously I hope they're right (if AR doesn't take a big step fwd), but I'm certainly very skeptical of Jones.

[Brylok]

We have a QB controversy already. Lol

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Minshew's better TD/Int ratio and Y/A is enough to make up for the difference in running IMO. And that extra cap space isn't as irrelevant as you think it is, since ~$10M can definitely be the difference between an ok FA signing and a great FA signing or can be used to shore things up. For example we could have used that cap space to have re-signed Kelly.



I don't know. Some folks on here have drank enough Jones Kool Aid to believe he's a shoe in to be our day 1 starter and possibly our franchise QB for the next decade. Obviously I hope they're right (if AR doesn't take a big step fwd), but I'm certainly very skeptical of Jones.

Jones is objectively the better option, at least in terms of talent, upside, and athletic ability.

And if the Colts had wanted to resign Kelly, they would have done so. They have more than enough cap space.

They obviously decided to give Bortolini the job.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Jones is objectively the better option, at least in terms of talent, upside, and athletic ability.

And if the Colts had wanted to resign Kelly, they would have done so. They have more than enough cap space.

They obviously decided to give Bortolini the job.

Are you insane? You're giving talent, upside, and athletic ability to Daniel Jones over Anthony Richardson? Those three things are just about the only things AR has going for him. Jones has more practical skill as a QB right now, but he is nowhere near the athlete and has nowhere near the potential of AR.

[ukcolt]

I think he was referring to Jones and Minshew

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

I think he was referring to Jones and Minshew

Now that makes more sense

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Are you insane? You're giving talent, upside, and athletic ability to Daniel Jones over Anthony Richardson? Those three things are just about the only things AR has going for him. Jones has more practical skill as a QB right now, but he is nowhere near the athlete and has nowhere near the potential of AR.

I was referring to Jones compared to Minshew. I thought that was clear from the discourse but I guess it wasn’t.