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[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If a WR is BPA, it's a Day 3 pick, they don't even make the roster sometimes. That said, you can often find starters at other positions on Day 3, OG being a great example of that. If there's a starting caliber OG that could push Fries and a WR who will be lucky to make the roster as a WR4, I'd rather get the OG.

Can you back any of this up with facts?

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If a WR is BPA, it's a Day 3 pick, they don't even make the roster sometimes. That said, you can often find starters at other positions on Day 3, OG being a great example of that. If there's a starting caliber OG that could push Fries and a WR who will be lucky to make the roster as a WR4, I'd rather get the OG.

If there's someone in day 3 available who Ballard thinks can legitimately compete for a starting spot on the roster then I'd expect him to have said player higher on his draft board than just someone who he thinks will be a depth guy. Also, if a WR is going to have trouble beating out someone like Montgomery then they're probably nowhere near the BPA, even on day 3. Not trying to knock Montgomery. He made a couple of clutch catches vs. Pitt, but there's a reason why he's bounced around on multiple team's practice squads and only has 6 catches since he entered the league in 2019.

Also, Ballard doesn't seem to put much stock in the likelihood of a day 3 draftee making the roster. If he likes the player he takes them. For example in day 3 of the '23 draft he picked 2 OTs w/ only 1 likely to make the roster, same w/ CBs, a TE who was going to have a steep uphill climb to make the roster, and a RB who was probably going to make the roster but w/out injuries would have been burried on the depth chart.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Puka Nacua and Marques Colston are much more the exception than the rule and starting OGs are much more common on Day 3. Pretty sure you already knew that, though.

It doesn't mean they can't be found. Also, I'd be willing to be there are plenty of day 3 WRs on rosters throughout the league.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Can you back any of this up with facts?

I'm not going to waste my time pulling the last 10 drafts' rounds 4-7 to determine how many starting OGs and starting WRs were there, but if you have time to do that, feel free to do so. I have a feeling it will show a lot more starting OGs than WRs, though.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

It doesn't mean they can't be found. Also, I'd be willing to be there are plenty of day 3 WRs on rosters throughout the league.

Sure. I don't see WR as a need for this team. I disagree with your assessment that it is. I do, however, agree with you that Nabers provides enough of an upgrade to be worth taking at 15 if he is there.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I'm not going to waste my time pulling the last 10 drafts' rounds 4-7 to determine how many starting OGs and starting WRs were there, but if you have time to do that, feel free to do so. I have a feeling it will show a lot more starting OGs than WRs, though.

If so, you should be able to come up with some of the names

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Sure. I don't see WR as a need for this team. I disagree with your assessment that it is. I do, however, agree with you that Nabers provides enough of an upgrade to be worth taking at 15 if he is there.

Interesting that you keep side stepping Odunze when I bring him up. Guessing you don't like him?

Also, not sure why you're so opposed to adding depth at WR. At the very least the more quality weapons for AR the better right?

[bigalbert]

We need a playmaker TE. Will help our WR’s out and definitely help AR out. All the good teams have one. I mean one even better than Dallas Clark. If the edge rusher isn’t there at 15 let’s go TE


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[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Interesting that you keep side stepping Odunze when I bring him up. Guessing you don't like him?

Also, not sure why you're so opposed to adding depth at WR. At the very least the more quality weapons for AR the better right?

Honestly? Don't have an opinion on him yet, have watched no film on him. Only WRs I've watched at this point are Harrison Jr. and Nabers and both were incidental to watching a QB. I'll probably watch Odunze when I get to Penix. That said, I've definitely added Latu to the list of players I want if they're there at 15. He's currently at the top of the list.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by bigalbert

We need a playmaker TE. Will help our WR’s out and definitely help AR out. All the good teams have one. I mean one even better than Dallas Clark. If the edge rusher isn’t there at 15 let’s go TE


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Brock Bowers won't be available at 15. The playmaking TE class was last year. Not nearly as many available this year.