2023 Draft QBs

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If it never worked, teams wouldn't bother doing it. The misinformation and smokescreens have to work on some level, otherwise they wouldn't happen.

One famous example of misinformation working in a team's favor was Antonio Gates going to the Chargers. Gates worked out for all 32 teams, but only the Chargers knew he was injured while doing the workout. That was why they were able to acquire him as a UDFA.

I think there is some truth to your comment, if it never worked teams wouldn't do it. The pressure to make the right decision is so intense that if any doubt can be created it could cause people to second guess themselves.

One of these guys, maybe even two, are going to be a star in the league for many years, they all have the physical skills but all of them have a lot to learn and all of them need to have great players around them to be successful. Matthew Stafford is a good example, great QB for years on a team that lacked talent, then he goes to the Rams and wins a SB in his first year!

I know Stafford had Calvin Johnson in Detroit, but overall the team lacked the talent in other key areas and it prevented a great QB from reaching his full potential.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Got an actual tweet, or are you blowing smoke here?

Dude, go to Twitter and see Stroud trending, or hit the search function. Be warned, they are gonna strip the shine off your new fixation!

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

Dude, go to Twitter and see Stroud trending, or hit the search function. Be warned, they are gonna strip the shine off your new fixation!

If Stroud scored low, which all we'll ever have to judge it on are unofficial reports, that doesn't match his tape. Will Levis scoring a 93 doesn't match his tape, either, nor does Richardson scoring in the 90s. Bryce Young scoring a 98 matches his tape. If he was 6'3" 220 he'd be considered the best QB prospect since Luck.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If Stroud scored low, which all we'll ever have to judge it on are unofficial reports, that doesn't match his tape. Will Levis scoring a 93 doesn't match his tape, either, nor does Richardson scoring in the 90s. Bryce Young scoring a 98 matches his tape. If he was 6'3" 220 he'd be considered the best QB prospect since Luck.

If he was 6'3" and 220 I would be all about trading up to 1.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Interesting week for Stroud. He's the frontrunner for #1 and then out of nowhere he's not coachable and can't process.

Absolutely no telling how this plays out. There's no runaway leader so it's going to come down to the stuff we can't know (e.g. interviews).

Vegas has Young going first now. Rumors Houston will go defense. Stroud in for a top 30 with the colts. Never know how the draft is going to go. Had guys arguing with me two weeks ago that Stroud and Young were going 1-2 and the Colts were stupid to even look at them.

I’m starting to think the Colts want a running QB though. I think it will come down to a decision b/w Levis and Richardson. I think it was always those two, why Ballard was nonchalant about moving up.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Vegas has Young going first now. Rumors Houston will go defense. Stroud in for a top 30 with the colts. Never know how the draft is going to go. Had guys arguing with me two weeks ago that Stroud and Young were going 1-2 and the Colts were stupid to even look at them.

I’m starting to think the Colts want a running QB though. I think it will come down to a decision b/w Levis and Richardson. I think it was always those two, why Ballard was nonchalant about moving up.

I think they had resolved themselves to be okay with Levis or Richardson. It would be rather shocking to see them take either of the low floor high ceiling guys (Richardson, Levis) over one of the high floor high ceiling guys (Stroud, Young).

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

One famous example of misinformation working in a team's favor was Antonio Gates going to the Chargers. Gates worked out for all 32 teams, but only the Chargers knew he was injured while doing the workout. That was why they were able to acquire him as a UDFA.

That is not the same at all and not comparable to rumors driving decisions. Hell, that is not even misinformation, it is a lack of information on the other 31 teams.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I think they had resolved themselves to be okay with Levis or Richardson. It would be rather shocking to see them take either of the low floor high ceiling guys (Richardson, Levis) over one of the high floor high ceiling guys (Stroud, Young).

I think they believe in Steichen’s ability to develop. I wonder if Stroud would be open to running more in an RPO roll. Steichen wants those explosive plays with multiple running threats bringing that safety down then throwing deep on single high coverage.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Butter

That is not the same at all and not comparable to rumors driving decisions. Hell, that is not even misinformation, it is a lack of information on the other 31 teams.

The misinformation was that Gates was healthy at the pro day, which caused no one to draft him. There were teams considering drafting him that year.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I think they believe in Steichen’s ability to develop. I wonder if Stroud would be open to running more in an RPO roll. Steichen wants those explosive plays with multiple running threats bringing that safety down then throwing deep on single high coverage.

Stroud used his legs when he had to and put up 41 points on a team that averaged 10.9 points allowed in its other 14 games, and put his team in position to win the game 44-42 had the kicker not shanked the field goal attempt into the Atlantic Ocean. On the final drive to get them in FG range he had 2 or 3 crucial 1st down converting runs. It's not a thing he's done often because why would you when your WRs are Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jaxson Smith-Njigba, Marvin Harrison Jr., and Emeka Egbuka?

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If Stroud scored low, which all we'll ever have to judge it on are unofficial reports, that doesn't match his tape. Will Levis scoring a 93 doesn't match his tape, either, nor does Richardson scoring in the 90s. Bryce Young scoring a 98 matches his tape. If he was 6'3" 220 he'd be considered the best QB prospect since Luck.

Agreed. If there's a test that shows Levis is better than Stroud at anything then it's obviously total BS and should be discarded from the player evaluations.