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Old 01-15-2023, 01:21 PM
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On second thought, they'd probably just keep everyone who's already there. They'd have to get a real offensive coordinator (Parks Frazier ain't it...lol), and maybe/probably a new O-line coach...but everyone else would just stay as is as long as nobody gets picked for a coaching position on another team (don't see that happening). It would definitely be the cheapest way to go. So, as of right now anyway, I expect Jeff Saturday will be the head coach.
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On second thought, they'd probably just keep everyone who's already there. They'd have to get a real offensive coordinator (Parks Frazier ain't it...lol), and maybe/probably a new O-line coach...but everyone else would just stay as is as long as nobody gets picked for a coaching position on another team (don't see that happening). It would definitely be the cheapest way to go. So, as of right now anyway, I expect Jeff Saturday will be the head coach.
I will say this about Parks Frazier, older veteran coaches were given a chance to take the OC job, and turned it down. F@ck those guys, they had a chance to step up and help the team, and they bailed on the opportunity. I wouldnt hired the special teams coach, he had a chance to audition, show what he could do. He’s not going to be on my team let alone a coordinator.

If I’m the owner, who ever is he head coach, Parks Frazier will be on the staff. He stepped up, into a crappy situation. He took one for the team, the Colts owe him.
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Parks Frazier may have scabbed in when nobody else would (for different reasons), but he didn't show anything that warrants him being appointed OC. He was only a 30yo assistant QB coach after all. Loyalty is one thing, performance is another.

Besides, I would imagine most of this offensive staff is gone. Unfortunately a new regime means there's a good chance we also lose our defensive staff that did a pretty good job
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Parks Frazier may have scabbed in when nobody else would (for different reasons), but he didn't show anything that warrants him being appointed OC. He was only a 30yo assistant QB coach after all. Loyalty is one thing, performance is another.

Besides, I would imagine most of this offensive staff is gone. Unfortunately a new regime means there's a good chance we also lose our defensive staff that did a pretty good job
Calling him a scab is horse shit. He was hired by Jim Irsay, thats where his loyalty was. I didnt say he was great, he was brave to take on an impossible task and give his best. Thats why I would keep him. He didnt quit on the team
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I will say this about Parks Frazier, older veteran coaches were given a chance to take the OC job, and turned it down. F@ck those guys, they had a chance to step up and help the team, and they bailed on the opportunity. I wouldnt hired the special teams coach, he had a chance to audition, show what he could do. He’s not going to be on my team let alone a coordinator.

If I’m the owner, who ever is he head coach, Parks Frazier will be on the staff. He stepped up, into a crappy situation. He took one for the team, the Colts owe him.
Are you high?

Parks Frazier sucks balls.

Colts had the worst scoring offense in the league and it didn’t get any better after Frazier took over even though the OLine was marginally better.
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What the hell are you talking about? Since when are roster decisions the responsibility of the coach?

That’s the damn gms job. He acquires the players and the coach coaches them.

The coach should have input, but the final decision is always with the general manager unless you’re Sean Payton or Belicheat.

Stop with this bullshit of trying to blame everything on Frank. Zak Keefer talked about that on one percent better. There is a concerted effort to lay all of the blame at Reichs feet and it’s just not accurate.

Now Franks hands are dirty for sure but he’s not solely to blame. I’d argue he’s not even the most to blame.
Using the above as the logic, then you are obligated to fire both Frank and Ballard on snap # 2 of the season after Matt Pryor was allowed to start the season at LT. Ballard for him being here and Frank for allowing him to start.
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Using the above as the logic, then you are obligated to fire both Frank and Ballard on snap # 2 of the season after Matt Pryor was allowed to start the season at LT. Ballard for him being here and Frank for allowing him to start.
Who else was Frank supposed to start? Raimann wasn’t ready and Kelly turned out to be not much better when he did play.

He didn’t have any other options. That’s on Ballard.
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Are you high?

Parks Frazier sucks balls.

Colts had the worst scoring offense in the league and it didn’t get any better after Frazier took over even though the OLine was marginally better.
Yeah, he sucks. So was that Frank's play book and there just wasn't enough time to change it up so Park's just kept calling Frank's plays. Was it Park's and Frank put way too much faith in a guy that is really bad at NFL play design (perhaps one of the MANY things Irsay was tired of with Frank).

In either case, no fucking way he gets a chance to repeat the insanity of this year's laughable offensive design regardless of the talent on the field.
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Who else was Frank supposed to start? Raimann wasn’t ready and Kelly turned out to be not much better when he did play.

He didn’t have any other options. That’s on Ballard.
Yeah it is on Ballard for sure. Shit, I really don't know what to think. Was Frank so bad that he couldn't see in camp that he was awful and demand they sign fucking someone, anyone that had a couple clips of better film? Or, did Frank see it and just accept that Pryor was Ballard's stooge and he just went along with it?

Either scenario, is an indictment on both of them and stands as my primary piece of evidence that Ballard has no business being a GM.
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Yeah, he sucks. So was that Frank's play book and there just wasn't enough time to change it up so Park's just kept calling Frank's plays. Was it Park's and Frank put way too much faith in a guy that is really bad at NFL play design (perhaps one of the MANY things Irsay was tired of with Frank).

In either case, no fucking way he gets a chance to repeat the insanity of this year's laughable offensive design regardless of the talent on the field.
Frank was never bad at coaching offense until this season. His offenses were always top half of the league at minimum.

The struggles on offense this year were CAUSED BY THE AWFUL OLINE, not because Frank forgot how to coach.

Jesus tap dancing Christ.

Have you not watched any games before this season?
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