Luck (podcast)

[rcubed]

while the grigson and the team he put together didnt do luck any favors, lets also not pretend that luck didnt play with some reckless abandon that added to his injuries which ultimately led to his early retirement.

[YDFL Commish]

I listened to all 6 episodes and although somewhat revealing, it didn't tell us anything that we already didn't know or suspect.

I also hat that Keefer completely glossed over the ski boarding incident.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by rcubed

while the grigson and the team he put together didnt do luck any favors, lets also not pretend that luck didnt play with some reckless abandon that added to his injuries which ultimately led to his early retirement.

If Chris Ballard was the Colts GM from Day 1 of Andrew Luck's career, I firmly believe Andrew Luck would be the (minimum 1 time) world champion starting QB of the Indianapolis Colts today. The OL that Grigson surrounded Luck with was unacceptable and would never have been tolerated by Ballard.

[ChaosTheory]

I haven't listened yet, but I always thought his retirement must've had more to do with things other than his injuries.

Maybe I'm wrong. But people always talked about his interests outside of football. And he got married before the season and his daughter was due in the middle of the season... Was it inevitable?

Guys like Patrick Willis, Calvin Johnson, Luke Kuechly, even Barry Sanders way back... They all got out early while still among the best at their positions, too.

It's just sick to think about because of what we saw in 2018. It was only going to get better.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

I haven't listened yet, but I always thought his retirement must've had more to do with things other than his injuries.

Maybe I'm wrong. But people always talked about his interests outside of football. And he got married before the season and his daughter was due in the middle of the season... Was it inevitable?

Guys like Patrick Willis, Calvin Johnson, Luke Kuechly, even Barry Sanders way back... They all got out early while still among the best at their positions, too.

It's just sick to think about because of what we saw in 2018. It was only going to get better.

I mean we really don’t know if he would’ve went out there half hearted trying only to fulfill an obligation we may have been yelling for him to retire anyway…. Who knows

I still believe he wanted to after the KC playoff game and was convinced to give it 1 more year, he tried to go thru the motions and couldn’t continue the charade

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If Chris Ballard was the Colts GM from Day 1 of Andrew Luck's career, I firmly believe Andrew Luck would be the (minimum 1 time) world champion starting QB of the Indianapolis Colts today. The OL that Grigson surrounded Luck with was unacceptable and would never have been tolerated by Ballard.

I dont disagree, if we had ballard at the beginning of lucks career things would most likely be in better shape. But again, luck put himself in harms way too much. david shaw used to get mad at him for taking on linebackers at stanford, that was before he ever knew who grigson was.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If Chris Ballard was the Colts GM from Day 1 of Andrew Luck's career, I firmly believe Andrew Luck would be the (minimum 1 time) world champion starting QB of the Indianapolis Colts today. The OL that Grigson surrounded Luck with was unacceptable and would never have been tolerated by Ballard.

All that and a beer gets you a beer. He was unable to play at a high level, both physically and mentally. Jim Irsay should take a big chunk of blame for how this happened

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

All that and a beer gets you a beer. He was unable to play at a high level, both physically and mentally. Jim Irsay should take a big chunk of blame for how this happened

Only for being too loyal to a bad GM. Grigson should've been canned after the 2015 AFC Championship Game. Maybe then Luck doesn't lacerate his kidney running for his life because he has a better OL around him. And before you say something else like "All that and a beer gets you a beer", I know the past can't be changed, this is a discussion forum, seems like the place to talk about "what if" scenarios.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Only for being too loyal to a bad GM. Grigson should've been canned after the 2015 AFC Championship Game. Maybe then Luck doesn't lacerate his kidney running for his life because he has a better OL around him. And before you say something else like "All that and a beer gets you a beer", I know the past can't be changed, this is a discussion forum, seems like the place to talk about "what if" scenarios.

getting fired after reaching the afc championship game wasn't going to happen.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Only for being too loyal to a bad GM. Grigson should've been canned after the 2015 AFC Championship Game. Maybe then Luck doesn't lacerate his kidney running for his life because he has a better OL around him. And before you say something else like "All that and a beer gets you a beer", I know the past can't be changed, this is a discussion forum, seems like the place to talk about "what if" scenarios.

I was at the game and Luck tried to move up in the pocket to make a play, and got blasted trying to run rather than throw it away. He didnt learn that sometimes you throw it out of bounds. Hell, Manning didnt learn that until late in his career when he nearly got his neck broke