It was Jim calling the shot

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by JAFF

The NFL does not have guaranteed contracts. The players are not throwing games for the owners, they can get cut any time, any day.

Oh, and since the NFL has gotten involved with gambling, anyone caught point shaving is going to jail ...... the players are not going to help owners to tank games, because if they did, they would be cutting their own throats.

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I believe that some team owners WOULD LIKE to see their team lose games late in what are otherwise lost-cause seasons ...... I DO NOT believe that there is a player, a head coach, an offensive coordinator, or a defensive coordinator in the game that would be willing to play along and intentionally sabotage their own play/coaching record for the whims/wishes of those team owners.

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[apballin]

Classic case of Jags superbowl (last game of a shitty season)

Colts playing a shitty team trying to go thru the motions and save some energy for the playoffs next week

But whatever Carson has to win that game instead he fumbles in the 2nd half killing any opportunities to go ahead and put the pussies away.

Fuck the Jags

I’m glad Jim had the balls to make that call, and I’m excited about Ryan dudes a pro and he shows up for work. This will be the first camp Reich has had to work with a QB in 2 years

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I believe that some team owners WOULD LIKE to see their team lose games late in what are otherwise lost-cause seasons ...... I DO NOT believe that there is a player, a head coach, an offensive coordinator, or a defensive coordinator in the game that would be willing to play along and intentionally sabotage their own play/coaching record for the whims/wishes of those team owners.

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Brian Flores seems to back up your comment, but see Hue Jackson's claims in this same article....and I find it hard to believe that there would not be coaches willing to carry out the owner's wishes considering the amount of money involved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ion/ar-AATpg2d

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Brian Flores seems to back up your comment, but see Hue Jackson's claims in this same article....and I find it hard to believe that there would not be coaches willing to carry out the owner's wishes considering the amount of money involved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ion/ar-AATpg2d

Where is Hue Campbell now? Not in the nfl

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Where is Hue Campbell now? Not in the nfl

I assume you mean Hue Jackson...maybe he should have kept his mouth shut?

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I assume you mean Hue Jackson...maybe he should have kept his mouth shut?

Yeah, veered off course.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I believe that some team owners WOULD LIKE to see their team lose games late in what are otherwise lost-cause seasons ...... I DO NOT believe that there is a player, a head coach, an offensive coordinator, or a defensive coordinator in the game that would be willing to play along and intentionally sabotage their own play/coaching record for the whims/wishes of those team owners.

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Brian Flores seems to back up your comment, but see Hue Jackson's claims in this same article.. .... and I find it hard to believe that there would not be coaches willing to carry out the owner's wishes considering the amount of money involved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ion/ar-AATpg2d

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This is a list of salaries for head coaches in the NFL.


https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/01/nfl/...63_799339.html


The lowest ...... THE LOWEST salary is $3 Million per year. The highest salary is $12.5 Million per year. And that coach WHO MAKES THE LEAST amount of money at $3 Million per year is the one who blew the whistle on his owner for trying to bribe him to lose games.

It would be almost unfathomable for a head coach to be willing to hurt his own legacy AND risk being caught and booted from the NFL for life because an owner offered to give him a $100,000 bonus, a $300,000 bonus, or even a $500,000 bonus in order to tank games.

It would be tantamount to a star player who makes between $15 Million and $30 Million per year throwing a game for a few million dollars and not only hurting his legacy in the process, but also risking his career AND his pension for doing so.


One of the inadvertent consequences of athletes and coaches making the absurd amounts of money that they do these days is that it is nearly impossible to get one of them (and especially a group of them) to fix/tank games for money.

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[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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This is a list of salaries for head coaches in the NFL.


https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/01/nfl/...63_799339.html


The lowest ...... THE LOWEST salary is $3 Million per year. The highest salary is $12.5 Million per year. And that coach WHO MAKES THE LEAST amount of money at $3 Million per year is the one who blew the whistle on his owner for trying to bribe him to lose games.

It would be almost unfathomable for a head coach to be willing to hurt his own legacy AND risk being caught and booted from the NFL for life because an owner offered to give him a $100,000 bonus, a $300,000 bonus, or even a $500,000 bonus in order to tank games.

It would be tantamount to a star player who makes between $15 Million and $30 Million per year throwing a game for a few million dollars and not only hurting his legacy in the process, but also risking his career AND his pension for doing so.


One of the inadvertent consequences of athletes and coaches making the absurd amounts of money that they do these days is that it is nearly impossible to get one of them (and especially a group of them) to fix/tank games for money.

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The article proves that at least 2 coaches in the not too distant past say they did or were ask to do what I suggested might be possible. You make a good argument, and I hope you are right, but if there are owners willing to make the request then there are also people willing to carry it out. How can you be so sure, as you stated, that "there isn't one coach or player" willing to do this when this one article has two coaches saying they either did it or were approached to do it?

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

The article proves that at least 2 coaches in the not too distant past say they did or were ask to do what I suggested might be possible. You make a good argument, and I hope you are right, but if there are owners willing to make the request then there are also people willing to carry it out. How can you be so sure, as you stated, that "there isn't one coach or player" willing to do this when this one article has two coaches saying they either did it or were approached to do it ???

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"Did" or "were asked to do" are 2 different animals. Brian Flores asserted that he was asked to do so by his owner, and he obviously did not carry out what was asked of him ...... in fact, his actions of publicly blowing the whistle on his owner for his alleged bribe attempt exemplifies what I am pointing out. I can't necessarily prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bethune–Cookman University won't win the Division-I NCAA basketball tournament next year, but I believe that it is a fairly safe bet/presumption.

And now that anybody who is even mildly familiar with the NFL is well aware of Brian Flores' allegations about what his owner asked him to do, the likelihood of a coach being stupid/crazy enough to accept and go along with tanking games at his owner's request in the future is even less because of the major scrutiny that surrounds the whole tanking concept even more than it did in the first place.

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[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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"Did" or "were asked to do" are 2 different animals. Brian Flores asserted that he was asked to do so by his owner, and he obviously did not carry out what was asked of him ...... in fact, his actions of publicly blowing the whistle on his owner for his alleged bribe attempt exemplifies what I am pointing out. I can't necessarily prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bethune–Cookman University won't win the Division-I NCAA basketball tournament next year, but I believe that it is a fairly safe bet/presumption.

And now that anybody who is even mildly familiar with the NFL is well aware of Brian Flores' allegations about what his owner asked him to do, the likelihood of a coach being stupid/crazy enough to accept and go along with tanking games at his owner's request in the future is even less because of the major scrutiny that surrounds the whole tanking concept even more than it did in the first place.

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And if you believe Hue Jackson, it proves that what I suggested can and did happen!