2021 NFL Draft thread - Day 2 discussion - Rounds 2 and 3

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Even if we weren't able to move up (although again based on what the Browns did we should have been able to) we still could have picked Darrisaw and been done with the LT replacement, which is now a fucking mess.

That only works if the Browns have the same # of picks over the next two years. The Colts have 2 picks to Philly if Wentz works out? And how he plays will will determine which round?

You are comparing two different Philosophies, picks and multiple years. You cant use Cleveland to justify what Ballard should do for Indy.. Ballard must take a long term view, not a yearly view.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

That only works if the Browns have the same # of picks over the next two years. The Colts have 2 picks to Philly if Wentz works out? And how he plays will will determine which round?

You are comparing two different Philosophies, picks and multiple years. You cant use Cleveland to justify what Ballard should do for Indy.. Ballard must take a long term view, not a yearly view.

I think you're looking too deep into what I was saying. I was pointing out that the Browns didn't give up much to move up 7 spots: Nos. 59 and 89 for Nos. 52 and 113. Based on that we should have had enough capitol in this years draft to move up a couple of spots to at least draft Radunz without giving up too many picks.

Also, drafting an LT to protect the QB you just traded for would be for the long term. Signing some depth guys like Tevi and hoping they start performing at a starting caliber level isn't long term either.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Puck

Glad I decided to opt out of this crap tonight. More glad that Dam is still in melt down mode

I checked Colts.com to see who had the more ridicules posts. Its a toss up. Im disappointed in some of you for making it close.


In case some of you don't know. Ballard knows more than we do. Trust the process.

We went from a shit hole and a street pickup LT (playoffs) to a couple pass rushers from the AFCCG

I get it. Everyone has opinions. Just try to see the logic and mind set in this.

Ballard does not and will not draft for NEED. He says it ...he does it... One of these days you'll get that. It is ALWAYS BPA which is a winning mindset.

I have said many times that I dont expect a LT drafted when there are better players on the board. TBH. I thought CB or WR would be BPA at 54 and expected that pick.

We have a mobile QB now. Very comparable to Andrew Luck. Probably as close as we get without having the top pick in the draft this yr.

LT is important. BUT not at the expense of building a better TEAM

Ballard has a plan. trust it He's more right than anyone on here

It's funny that you think I'm in "melt down mode", I actually liked the Dayo pick better than the Kwity pick, though Ballard's strategy was obvious from the time the card was turned in yesterday, which is why it backfired so hard with the last viable LT going the pick before him. Dayo actually has pass rush moves, splits doubles, and does the sorts of things on film that both impress and project to early NFL success. Dayo has a rush plan on every play, at least 2-3 developed pass rush moves, attacks any weakness in the opposing OL's blocking strategy, and constantly handfights. Teven Jenkins and Dayo Odeyingbo would have been an excellent draft. Add Elerson Smith to that in Round 4 and you're really cooking with gas. I'd still add Elerson Smith if possible in Round 4, dude went to the Senior Bowl and just won every rep, then you look at his athletic profile, and realize there's a lot to dream on there.

Originally Posted by nate505

Pure, total, complete, absolute delusion.

Maybe, but honestly, I feel like Paye was a wasted pick and the Colts would've been better off with Teven Jenkins and Dayo Odeyingbo. Putting Jenkins to the left of Nelson would've been so perfect, and he's as athletic and more technically sound than Castanzo was coming into the NFL.

[Luck4Reich]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

It's funny that you think I'm in "melt down mode", I actually liked the Dayo pick better than the Kwity pick, though Ballard's strategy was obvious from the time the card was turned in yesterday, which is why it backfired so hard with the last viable LT going the pick before him. Dayo actually has pass rush moves, splits doubles, and does the sorts of things on film that both impress and project to early NFL success. Dayo has a rush plan on every play, at least 2-3 developed pass rush moves, attacks any weakness in the opposing OL's blocking strategy, and constantly handfights. Teven Jenkins and Dayo Odeyingbo would have been an excellent draft. Add Elerson Smith to that in Round 4 and you're really cooking with gas. I'd still add Elerson Smith if possible in Round 4, dude went to the Senior Bowl and just won every rep, then you look at his athletic profile, and realize there's a lot to dream on there.



Maybe, but honestly, I feel like Paye was a wasted pick and the Colts would've been better off with Teven Jenkins and Dayo Odeyingbo. Putting Jenkins to the left of Nelson would've been so perfect, and he's as athletic and more technically sound than Castanzo was coming into the NFL.

Noone is a wasted pick until they've at least played first.... He hasn't played a single game in the NFL yet lol

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich

Noone is a wasted pick until they've at least played first.... He hasn't played a single game in the NFL yet lol

But you had the opportunity to draft Teven Jenkins, and a huge need at LT that he could've filled. I like Paye's story, it's inspirational and makes me want to see him succeed, and he certainly has the right attitude for it. I just think we may look back in 5 years and regret Ballard passing on Jenkins for Paye.