so Donald Trump

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

No easy fix but a couple huge steps to improvement

1) term limits - house and senate need limits

2). Campaign finance reform. Have to get lobbyists out of government

This is where an initial influx of Libertarians could help, even if it doesn't last. Unlikely either of these things happen with either party in power, or even with the two parties sharing it.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by FatDT

This is where an initial influx of Libertarians could help, even if it doesn't last. Unlikely either of these things happen with either party in power, or even with the two parties sharing it.

It is never going to happen unless there is a small revolution. Basically demanding it from the people. A "you will no longer be elected unless this happens". Which won't happen. Changing the constitution probably won't happen again

[FatDT]

Take away the Baby Boomers' social security/medicare and it could happen.

[rcubed]

This scares as much as trump continuing as president.

If he is removed from office then pence takes over. Uh, no thanks. That guy is a nut job.

If pence is taken out with trump then paul ryan takes over. Uh, no thanks. Super douche.


Stupid voters.

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by rcubed

This scares as much as trump continuing as president.

If he is removed from office then pence takes over. Uh, no thanks. That guy is a nut job.

If pence is taken out with trump then paul ryan takes over. Uh, no thanks. Super douche.


Stupid voters.

And if somehow Ryan doesn't get to it, Oren Hatch becomes President. I would take Pence over Trump just from a functioning government perspective. But overall he would barely be an upgrade.