In the upcoming draft

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Puck

I would trade as many picks as I could for next years draft and try to have multiple 1st's

Caleb Williams is the real deal and so much better than any QB in this yrs draft

Good luck getting a quality coach to come here under those circumstances (all in for a high draft pick next year). If Williams is that good nobody is going to trade his pick so you would need to be the worst team in the league to have a legit shot at him. No thank you. We need to turn this damn thing around now, at least that needs to be the attitude. In this NFL it can be done.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Puck

Wish you would have added Hooker into this But otherwise. nice job

I'll do one for the next tier. I think Hooker's injury takes him out of the first consideration. But I think we use our first on a QB unless there is a run before we pick.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Good luck getting a quality coach to come here under those circumstances (all in for a high draft pick next year). If Williams is that good nobody is going to trade his pick so you would need to be the worst team in the league to have a legit shot at him. No thank you. We need to turn this damn thing around now, at least that needs to be the attitude. In this NFL it can be done.

The coach will be here before the draft

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Heads would explode, I know, but I don't want them to take a guy unless they are absolutely sold on him. They may be and that'd be great.

But I don't like feeling overly needy and cashing in a blue chip draft pick on a non-blue chip guy. Not to directly compare this year's class with these guys, but it terrifies me to spend a top 3-5 pick on a Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Blake Bortles, Mitch Trubisky... and meanwhile miss out on a Will Anderson type guy.

Nature of the gamble I suppose.

If they can trade back and still get their QB of choice, is that not a win win?

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by nate505

If the Colts don't get a QB, OT, or trade down for a shit ton of picks I'll be furious.

I can even get the argument for a pass rusher, but man, the QB and line are by far what needs the most help now.

If they don't think the top QBs are franchise material and Raimann can man the spot longterm. Still a blue-chip LT is very tempting.

The pass rushers and DL at the top of this draft are great. A deep CB draft as well.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

If they can trade back and still get their QB of choice, is that not a win win?

Of course. I'll clarify where I quoted Love2Fish. I agree with him. I'm good with trading back as well if they aren't truly sold on a QB at a top 3-5 pick.

Trading for a haul or drafting a true blue-chip are superior options. If it somehow worked out that after a trade back the QB was still available at a more reasonable spot, great.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Where does this rep that CJ Stroud gets for not being able to go off script come from? Is it because he normally doesn't run the ball when things break down, buts keeps his eyes downfield and looks to make plays with his arm instead? Because there's a guy in Green Bay that's made himself a pretty good career out of doing that.

BTW, Chrome your breakdowns are pretty spot on minus the part about Stroud being a bad improviser. Anthony Richardson has Cam Newton upside and Trace McSorley downside.

Stroud might be the guy this year that is overanalyzed because he has been around so long. Usually someone every year. From what draft analysts seem to say teams seem to be split on him, some teams love him, and others like him but want more. The rep on him is that he isn't much of a creator when the play breaks down. That he is great when in a structure and throwing in rhythm but if things break down and he gets under pressure his game devolves. Now some of these criticisms have continued over from last year. Its hard to get people past their initial impressions of a player.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...ce-oregon-2021

https://youtu.be/TIJJ2Z1qnfM

But he might have silenced some of his critics after the playoff game. And of course after Saturday's game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kb7UJHI1I

Thing is, players evolve, has he shown enough lately? Don't know. Might be the Texans are considering him for 1 as well.

Incidentally, I think Stroud might be my QB 1 now because you can't teach size and I value accuracy above just about everything else. I think his throwing would be excellent with our tall receivers who need tight over-the-shoulder throws to take advantage of their size. But I'm starting to think the Colts will be picking between Levis and Richardson.

Richardson could be a Cam Newton, that's his ceiling I think. I just don't often use comps because then fans project that guys career onto the draftee when it is just a stylistic match. For example, if I say Levis reminds me of Wentz in some ways fans might then go "No way, don't want Wentz 2.0." But there were some good things about Wentz, particularly before the injury. Also, I think a lot of what ails Wentz is in his head because athletically; that guy is gifted.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

Chromes analysis on Stroud meets my biggest concern.

OSU’s receiver room has been STACKED the last couple of years. They look like the recruiting class from an old NCAA football game on a PlayStation 2.

He looked good against UGA but as soon as Jr was knocked out of the game, the difference was clear. UGA is also built like the old Alabama teams. Very beefy and nasty front 7, not exceptionally skilled in the secondary. It was a good matchup for Stroud, and he played well enough, but I expected that.

This makes me nervous. Honestly, I’m content with getting Anderson so we can lock in this defensive front with him and Paye, picking up a QB later, and trying to make sure we have the draft capital go get a no brainer pick in the future.

Watch him. I don't care how stacked the receiver room is if he makes play after play in a similar fashion to Aaron Rodgers. That type of playmaking ability doesn't just evaporate as receiver quality diminishes, and it was on full display against the best defense he could've possibly faced.

[Chromeburn]

So… anyone worried that Stroud hasn’t declared yet? He has till the 16th to declare.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

So… anyone worried that Stroud hasn’t declared yet? He has till the 16th to declare.

It is kind of odd. I wonder if he's worried about being a Texican?