Crazy Offseason Plan the Colts Will Never Do That Just Might Work.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I find it bizarre that nobody even seems to be talking to the guy. What is with not even kicking the tires?

Before the 2023 draft, the compensation for signing Lamar is a 2023 1 and a 2024 1. After the 2023 draft, it's a 2024 1 and a 2025 1. Don't be surprised if there are negotiations with him after the draft. Also, no one wants to do the work of negotiating a contract for Eric DeCosta. If he wants to keep Lamar, he can negotiate a deal. If he doesn't, he can negotiate a trade.

[Butter]

I agree with you that teams don't want to do the negotiating for DeCosta, not really convinced he wants to rade him. I would imagine any trade he is going to want is close to what the Texans received for Watson and there is no way I want to see the Colts give up that much and pay the contract he will demand..

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Butter

I agree with you that teams don't want to do the negotiating for DeCosta, not really convinced he wants to rade him. I would imagine any trade he is going to want is close to what the Texans received for Watson and there is no way I want to see the Colts give up that much and pay the contract he will demand..

The Ravens are limited by the franchise tag itself. They don't have leverage in the situation. They risk losing Lamar for nothing in the not too distant future if they don't extend him or trade him. The Texans had Watson's rights until 2025 when they traded him, that gave them much more leverage in negotiations.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Before the 2023 draft, the compensation for signing Lamar is a 2023 1 and a 2024 1. After the 2023 draft, it's a 2024 1 and a 2025 1. Don't be surprised if there are negotiations with him after the draft. Also, no one wants to do the work of negotiating a contract for Eric DeCosta. If he wants to keep Lamar, he can negotiate a deal. If he doesn't, he can negotiate a trade.

So you’re telling me we could get one of the best defensive players in the draft and then trade for Lamar?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by apballin

So you’re telling me we could get one of the best defensive players in the draft and then trade for Lamar?

Yes

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Before the 2023 draft, the compensation for signing Lamar is a 2023 1 and a 2024 1. After the 2023 draft, it's a 2024 1 and a 2025 1. Don't be surprised if there are negotiations with him after the draft. Also, no one wants to do the work of negotiating a contract for Eric DeCosta. If he wants to keep Lamar, he can negotiate a deal. If he doesn't, he can negotiate a trade.

And if they do that. They 2 #!s in 25-25 "should" be later in the draft order. In the 20's or higher. Hopefully

I am not all in on the thought of Lamar but I wouldn't be upset about it

[smitty46953]

The thing with Lamar, whether it is a trade or offer on his tag is the financial ramification's that come with the fully guaranteed contract. Jackson depending on rumors is wanting north of the fully guaranteed $230,000,000 contract signed by Deshaun Watson with the Browns. I believe the owners are trying to steer clear of these contracts, while the NFLPA are advocating for them.

I believe the owners if I understand it correctly are required to follow the NFL's funding rule which stipulates that every fully guaranteed dollar owed to a player, but not yet paid to him, must be placed in a league-run escrow account. In other words, even if a player is owed guaranteed money over the course of three, four, or five years, ownership still must place all of that money into a separate bank account.

Some owners, their family members and or shareholders/partners, rely on income from the team for their livelihoods. Others, such as the Browns, who are owned by truck stop mogul Jimmy Haslam, who’s worth an estimated $5.5 billion, can afford to squirrel away $230 million more easily than some other organizations.

Regardless of whether or not a team, such as the Colts and Jim Irsay can afford it. I believe the consensus of the owners is to avoid such contracts.

Personally, I would rather go with a rookie QB pay scale and cap implications rather than one player eventually with a $50,000,000 cap hit hindering signing of others around him.

Just my $0.02 worth

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

The thing with Lamar, whether it is a trade or offer on his tag is the financial ramification's that come with the fully guaranteed contract. Jackson depending on rumors is wanting north of the fully guaranteed $230,000,000 contract signed by Deshaun Watson with the Browns. I believe the owners are trying to steer clear of these contracts, while the NFLPA are advocating for them.

I believe the owners if I understand it correctly are required to follow the NFL's funding rule which stipulates that every fully guaranteed dollar owed to a player, but not yet paid to him, must be placed in a league-run escrow account. In other words, even if a player is owed guaranteed money over the course of three, four, or five years, ownership still must place all of that money into a separate bank account.

Some owners, their family members and or shareholders/partners, rely on income from the team for their livelihoods. Others, such as the Browns, who are owned by truck stop mogul Jimmy Haslam, who’s worth an estimated $5.5 billion, can afford to squirrel away $230 million more easily than some other organizations.

Regardless of whether or not a team, such as the Colts and Jim Irsay can afford it. I believe the consensus of the owners is to avoid such contracts.

Personally, I would rather go with a rookie QB pay scale and cap implications rather than one player eventually with a $50,000,000 cap hit hindering signing of others around him.

Just my $0.02 worth

Throw in his injury history, thats a big reach. He gets hurt in year two and all that money is gone and nothing to show for it

[Oldcolt]

I don't see the money as an issue. If it is then Irsay should get out of the league. This is where contracts for QBs are going. You can cry about it all you want but this is the reality. Irsay has had both Peyton and Luck as the highest paid players in the league, he gets it. Just look at the money NY gave Jones.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I don't see the money as an issue. If it is then Irsay should get out of the league. This is where contracts for QBs are going. You can cry about it all you want but this is the reality. Irsay has had both Peyton and Luck as the highest paid players in the league, he gets it. Just look at the money NY gave Jones.

So you just ignore the ramifications of the guaranteed part then? Sigh.