2017 Draft Thread

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by sherck

Okay, last post for a while in the draft thread. I found a 5-round mock on Walter Football that indicates that someone understands the weaknesses of the Colts:

1-15 (#015) ILB Reuban Foster, Alabama
Foster is a vicious hitter with elite playmaking range and an ability to toggle between 225 and 240 pounds. Athleticism gives him cover ability that former teammate Reggie Ragland never possessed. Has Pro Bowl potential as a 3-4 inside linebacker or a 4-3 weak-side linebacker, but concerns over his medical history could be a consideration, according to some teams.

2-14 (#046) OLB Charles Harris, Missouri
High-cut pass rusher with good athleticism but concerns regarding his ability to drop anchor against the run. Ironically, Harris might be best suited as a penetrator which is something he fought against this season. His hands can be improved as pass rush weapons, but he has agility and footwork that can't be taught. Harris can play on the edge in a 4-3 or 3-4 front and should be the next in a line of early contributing defensive ends coming out of Missouri.

3-16 (#080) CB Cameron Sutton, Tennessee
Four-year starter with the fluidity to handle man coverage on the outside, but lacking desired physicality and run-support traits that zone teams covet. Sutton flashed outstanding ball production his first two seasons but saw his per-game production drop since. Could be forced inside due to a lack of size on next level. Punt-return ability could be what gets him on the field first.

4-15 (#121) ILB Anthony Walker, Northwestern
Has packed muscle onto his frame that looks good in the uniform but might be limiting his flexibility and athletic ability. A productive, downhill linebacker who misses too many tackles and struggles as a take-on player. He checks all the desired boxes for football and personal character and can be counted on to do what it takes to improve his game. He could become a decent starting linebacker within his first few years.

4-31 (#137) RB Samaje Perine, OklahomaPerine is a physical runner who can create additional yardage through power and can be a complimentary "banger" for a team who already has a slasher. Perine doesn't have the burst or play speed to be a dynamic lead back, but he can handle a heavy workload if needed and he should become an immediate short-yardage and goal-line option.

4-38 (#144) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia
Douglas has rare size for the position and his 2016 interception total will add to the level of intrigue for NFL teams. There is no doubting Douglas' ability to make plays on the ball when he's in position, but his lack of long speed and closing burst could make his big senior season an anomaly. Douglas is a zone corner with press and trail ability but needs to run a reasonable time at the combine to solidify his draft slotting. (Note: Ran a 4.59 at combine.)

5-14 (#158) NT Josh Tupou, Colorado
Does one thing and one thing only -- eat up space. Doesn't have enough reactive quickness or even functional movement to find himself in many plays that aren't right at him, but his size and anchor gives him a shot with a team who values pure girth for early downs.

Foster in the first and Harris in the 2nd round are probably stretches for being available but this kind of draft could really help the Colts.

Cheers,

I could live with this.

[VeveJones007]

Foster and Harris would be a home run in rounds 1 & 2. No way either player is available at those picks, though.

[HoosierinFL]

I suspect we are definitely drafting a TE in round 3 or 4 anyway so any mock that omits that will be wrong.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

I suspect we are definitely drafting a TE in round 3 or 4 anyway so any mock that omits that will be wrong.

Why do you say that? They are high on Swoope and need to see if he continues to perform with more playing time. Do you really want to add a TE in round 3 or 4 who is on the bench for most of the year when you could potentially add a solid defender?

[YDFL Commish]

I don't know who is reliable as far as mock drafts and player rankings go. It is truly becoming bizarre.

I've seen some players going anywhere from the early 1st round to the 3rd round, depending on who's mock draft you're looking at.

So the quandary is, trust the talking heads, or do your own film study and decide from there?

Bottom line is though, there are only probably a handful of players in each round that you can accurately predict will be chosen in that round.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I don't know who is reliable as far as mock drafts and player rankings go. It is truly becoming bizarre.

I've seen some players going anywhere from the early 1st round to the 3rd round, depending on who's mock draft you're looking at.

So the quandary is, trust the talking heads, or do your own film study and decide from there?

Bottom line is though, there are only probably a handful of players in each round that you can accurately predict will be chosen in that round.

I like to rely on the guys who put in the film study, have sources around the league, and do not have connections with player agents. That last point is what gets Kiper into trouble. He routinely overrates players because he's doing the agent a favor.

All those things considered, I like to look at what Matt Miller says first and foremost.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

That last point is what gets Kiper into trouble.

Sure, but the hair. That has to count for something.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Butter

Sure, but the hair. That has to count for something.

Hair + snarl = gold

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I'll take Thomas, McKinley and Baker and be thrilled !!!!

Thomas?

Not a chance. Most mocks i see now have him going right behind Garrett at number 2.

[natagu23]

Lookout for this Forrest Lamp kid- Guard Western Kentucky

This guy can play pretty much every position on the line and i mean every position.

He shined versus Alabama.

This is a pick that could solidify the oline but could warrant the surprised "Who?" reaction if we call his name come the 15th pick.