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Old 02-22-2020, 07:13 PM
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As of right now, give me Darek Carr and draft a defensive lineman/pass-rusher with 13. I don't think the kid QBs we could get are going to pan out, and I don't want to be stuck with a Mitch Trubisky type player. This changes if Costanzo retires.
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Old 02-22-2020, 07:25 PM
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Not trying to say that this is the silver bullet, but...

2019 / 70.4% completion / 4,054 yards / 7.9 ypa / 21 TD / 08 INT / 100.8 QBR
2018 / 68.9% completion / 4,049 yards / 7.3 ypa / 19 TD / 10 INT / 93.9 QBR
2017 / 62.7% completion / 3,496 yards / 6.8 ypa / 22 TD / 13 INT / 86.4 QBR

2019 / 60.8% completion / 2,942 yards / 6.6 ypa / 18 TD / 06 INT / 88.0 QBR
2017 / 58.8% completion / 3,098 yards / 6.6 ypa / 13 TD / 07 INT / 81.7 QBR

Darek Carr (top stat lines) will be 29 for the 2020 season
Jacoby Brisset (bottom stat lines) will be 27 for most of the 2020 season

All stats are trending up for Carr except number of TDs thrown over the past three years. You could almost say the same for JB but his yards per attempt did not change from 2017 to 2019.

Bridgewater does not have enough snaps in 2017 - 2019 to make a good comparison. Sure, he played GREAT in 2019 (3 games over 70% completion, 4:1 TD to INT ratio, 99.1 QBR but I am not sold on paying him as a long term starter based on that small of a body of work.

I don't know what the Raiders will want for Carr but of all the free agent options out there, he appears to be the one that looks the most attractive from a skill, cap and compensation standpoint. His cap hit over the next three years would be just under $20m per year for a team who trades from him.

If we could trade # 44 for Carr, I think that would be a good thing.
On a well coached team, with a good defense and good running game...those stats will win you a SB.

I would not be willing to give up the 13th pick for Carr though.
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On a well coached team, with a good defense and good running game...those stats will win you a SB.

I would not be willing to give up the 13th pick for Carr though.
With Carrs' contract running through 2022, I could see the Colts offering a 3rd round pick (79). If the Raiders don't value him enough to let him go I imagine a 3rd to free up the cap space would do it.

Carrs' Cap Hits:
2020: $18.9 million
2021: $19.52 million
2022: $19.77 million
2023: Free Agent
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With Carrs' contract running through 2022, I could see the Colts offering a 3rd round pick (79). If the Raiders don't value him enough to let him go I imagine a 3rd to free up the cap space would do it.

Carrs' Cap Hits:
2020: $18.9 million
2021: $19.52 million
2022: $19.77 million
2023: Free Agent
It depends on how much competition there is to get him. Competition with other teams to acquire him could raise the cost (in draft pick compensation)
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Not trying to say that this is the silver bullet, but...

2019 / 70.4% completion / 4,054 yards / 7.9 ypa / 21 TD / 08 INT / 100.8 QBR
2018 / 68.9% completion / 4,049 yards / 7.3 ypa / 19 TD / 10 INT / 93.9 QBR
2017 / 62.7% completion / 3,496 yards / 6.8 ypa / 22 TD / 13 INT / 86.4 QBR

2019 / 60.8% completion / 2,942 yards / 6.6 ypa / 18 TD / 06 INT / 88.0 QBR
2017 / 58.8% completion / 3,098 yards / 6.6 ypa / 13 TD / 07 INT / 81.7 QBR

Darek Carr (top stat lines) will be 29 for the 2020 season
Jacoby Brisset (bottom stat lines) will be 27 for most of the 2020 season

All stats are trending up for Carr except number of TDs thrown over the past three years. You could almost say the same for JB but his yards per attempt did not change from 2017 to 2019.

Bridgewater does not have enough snaps in 2017 - 2019 to make a good comparison. Sure, he played GREAT in 2019 (3 games over 70% completion, 4:1 TD to INT ratio, 99.1 QBR but I am not sold on paying him as a long term starter based on that small of a body of work.

I don't know what the Raiders will want for Carr but of all the free agent options out there, he appears to be the one that looks the most attractive from a skill, cap and compensation standpoint. His cap hit over the next three years would be just under $20m per year for a team who trades from him.

If we could trade # 44 for Carr, I think that would be a good thing.
If you can get Carr for the 44th overall pick, do it. Otherwise, I'd prefer to roll the dice on Bridgewater since all he'll cost is money (and the Colts have a ton of that) and we're talking about a former first round QB who looked like a budding star prior to a devastating knee injury in Minnesota, who THEN came out and did what he did this year filling in for one of the best QBs ever. The body of work to me suggests a diamond in the rough that could allow the Colts to spend on other parts of the team and put together a real contender very quickly.
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If you can get Carr for the 44th overall pick, do it. Otherwise, I'd prefer to roll the dice on Bridgewater since all he'll cost is money (and the Colts have a ton of that) and we're talking about a former first round QB who looked like a budding star prior to a devastating knee injury in Minnesota, who THEN came out and did what he did this year filling in for one of the best QBs ever. The body of work to me suggests a diamond in the rough that could allow the Colts to spend on other parts of the team and put together a real contender very quickly.
Don't remember where I read it, but I read Bridgewater wants $30+ ?
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Don't remember where I read it, but I read Bridgewater wants $30+ ?
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Don't remember where I read it, but I read Bridgewater wants $30+ ?
It was on twitter... he more likely to get between 22-25 million. Bears might be top player in going after him or the Panthers.

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