It’s really simple, and if you don’t understand…

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I'll probably get hammered for saying this, but have the Colts in Indy really ever had a great coach? I know people say Dungy was great, but only getting one championship while having Peyton Manning in his prime for 7 seasons tarnishes his legacy in my opinion. I'd say they might have had a great coach for one season, but let Arians go when Chuck Pagano recovered.

When you compare Reich to the previous coaches with the Colts since they moved to Indy, he may be the second best behind Dungy, and If he can win a couple of Super Bowls before he is replaced or retires, he might end up being the best! But he does make some real bonehead calls at times, but I think he has more upside than downside! I like him and I do believe this team is poised to go to the next level over the next 5 years!

but honestly how many truly great coaches have there been in the NFL? and how many at any one given time?

I mean look at the current coaches. Who is great?
Belichick (but tainted with cheating)
Reid (many considered him good but not great until he won in KC)
Payton? Tomlin?
then you have a bunch of good or up an coming coaches.
Reich has some head scratching moments but I still think he is in the upper echelon of current coaches.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I'll probably get hammered for saying this, but have the Colts in Indinapolis (1984 - Present) really ever had a great coach ?? I know that people say Dungy was great, but only getting one championship while having Peyton Manning in his prime for 7 seasons tarnishes his legacy, in my opinion. I'd say they might have had a great coach for one season, but let Arians go when Chuck Pagano recovered.

When you compare Reich to the previous coaches with the Colts since they moved to Indy in March of 1984, he may be the second-best behind Dungy, and if he can win a couple of Super Bowls before he is replaced or retires, he might end up being the best !!! He does make some real bone-headed calls at times, but I think that he has more upside than downside !!! I like him, and I do believe that this team is poised to go to the next level over the next 5 years !!!

o


One of the first things that I think of about Dungy coaching the Colts was when he allowed Peyton Manning to overrule him in a playoff game ...... during the game.

In the 2005 divisional playoff loss to the Steelers, the Colts were down by a score of 21-3 with the 4th quarter about to start. Tony Dungy told the punt team to take the field. Realizing that that would have essentially been conceding the game, Manning defied Dungy and told the punt team to get the hell off of the field. Dungy simply raised his eyebrows, nodded his head in agreement, and said, "OK." The Colts went for it on 4th and 2, got the first down, and proceeded to score a touchdown on that drive to cut the lead to a manageable 21-10.


Dungy allowed one of his players to veto his decision in a nationally-televised playoff game with tens of millions of viewers watching ...... THAT is an example of being a great coach.

o

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

o


One of the first things that I think of about Dungy coaching the Colts was when he allowed Peyton Manning to overrule him in a playoff game ...... during the game.

In the 2005 divisional playoff loss to the Steelers, the Colts were down by a score of 21-3 with the 4th quarter about to start. Tony Dungy told the punt team to take the field. Realizing that that would have essentially been conceding the game, Manning defied Dungy and told the punt team to get the hell off of the field. Dungy simply raised his eyebrows, nodded his head in agreement, and said, "OK." The Colts went for it on 4th and 2, got the first down, and proceeded to score a touchdown on that drive to cut the lead to a manageable 21-10.


Dungy allowed one of his players to veto his decision in a nationally-televised playoff game with tens of millions of viewers watching ...... THAT is an example of being a great coach.

o

Thats a HOF coach trusting a HOF Qb. Not exactly what we have here

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Kray007

For the first 3 quarters, the Bucs stacked 8 men in the box, and Wentz threw. In the 4th Quarter, they dropped 5 into coverage, leaving only 6 in the box, and Wentz started handing the ball to Taylor.

If you want to know if the decision to throw was the right one, all you have to do is look at the fact that, in crunch time, with the game on the line, the Bucs did something they swore they wouldn’t do…they quit concentrating on stopping Taylor. They decided that, if they didn’t change up the gameplan, Wentz was going to beat them with his arm.

The loss stings, but going forward, it helps Taylor. You know that coaches like Belichick will be studying this game, and they’re all gonna see the same thing…you can’t beat the Colts by stacking the box and stuffing the run.

So they stack the box. Go double tight double wide and got get 3.5 yards. Then run backside play action

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by JAFF

So they stack the box. Go double tight double wide and got get 3.5 yards. Then run backside play action

Yeah, we possibly could have done that. But what incentive do they have to do that when they're dropping 21 in the 2qtr? And then marching down the field into TB's red zone coming out of halftime?

Frank Reich did not stop calling run plays against Buffalo because we were killing them in Nickel without Edmunds.

And he wasn't going to stop calling pass plays because we were killing TB.

5 turnovers and we were the third team to score 30 on TB. If we were going three-and-out and banging our heads against a wall, I'd criticize the play-calling more. But I don't want him calling plays based on being scared that Eric Fisher is going to allow a strip-sack.

Apparently a lot of guys do want him calling scared.

[Oldcolt]

You seem to think that since Wentz was on fire we did the correct thing in keeping passing. Maybe you were being sarcastic and I totally missed it. My point was that going with the guy on fire got us a loss. I don't believe Wentz is good enough to carry a team like he is being asked or wants to, whatever is the case. I think we need to not pass 20 some odd times in a row, no matter how hot the qb is. The team has no identity.

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

You seem to think that since Wentz was on fire we did the correct thing in keeping passing. Maybe you were being sarcastic and I totally missed it. My point was that going with the guy on fire got us a loss. I don't believe Wentz is good enough to carry a team like he is being asked or wants to, whatever is the case. I think we need to not pass 20 some odd times in a row, no matter how hot the qb is. The team has no identity.

5 turnovers got us a loss. And the identity of this team is very simple. Stop Taylor and Wentz will drop 30 on you. Stop Wentz and Taylor will rush for 160. Either way, there isn’t a defense in the league that’s good enough to hold them under 4 TD’s

[Puck]

Yes JT is our bell cow. But Carson is a damn good QB. Play to the strengths?

Carson was the strength this game. To not know that is stupid The Bucs could not stop him. only turn overs stopped the Colts

Bitch at Hines and Pascal. Otherwise we win by 14 going away!

[Oldcolt]

Puck I agree with you that if you qb is having a hot game you need to ride him more. I just think that we need to run the ball way more than we did if we want to be effective long term. Throwing like 26 times in a row isn't riding the hot hand. It is a whole new game plan. Lawrence Owen has a link to a podcast with D'Qwell Jackson on this site. He and Edge make the same point I am trying to make but do it much clearer and with more nuance than I do. We need to be more balanced. And it is not just about this game, it is about how the whole season has gone. When things get difficult we just do not have an identity to fall back on.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Puck I agree with you that if you qb is having a hot game you need to ride him more. I just think that we need to run the ball way more than we did if we want to be effective long term. Throwing like 26 times in a row isn't riding the hot hand. It is a whole new game plan. Lawrence Owen has a link to a podcast with D'Qwell Jackson on this site. He and Edge make the same point I am trying to make but do it much clearer and with more nuance than I do. We need to be more balanced. And it is not just about this game, it is about how the whole season has gone. When things get difficult we just do not have an identity to fall back on.

Oh I think there is an identity to this team. That identity is one of a megalomaniac smart guy that is dead set on proving he can beat teams with his play calling. It's costing us games over and over. But, ehhh, he's a really nice guy and good with the media so....