Comeback Player of the Year article...

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by FatDT

How does that contradict what the author said?

The author is implying Luck didn't have those traits while the poster is saying the traits were there, but latent due to scheme. I'd agree with the poster because I don't think it's a surprise that going from a scheme that emphasizes medium and deep routes to a scheme that emphasizes short and medium routes resulted in an uptick in Luck's accuracy. That's just logical.

On a slightly related note, I'm starting to see upgrades at WR as less and less of a need. Between scheme and QB, TE usage in this offense is incredibly high, and I'd argue WR2 is a 5th or 6th option unless they bring in someone really good or Cain develops really well. As of now though, I'd say the target order in this offense is Hilton, Ebron, Doyle, Alie-Cox, RB.

[1965southpaw]

I don't feel the need to figure out whether this is the same or better version of Luck. I just feel we are incredibly fortunate to have him back and performing so well. I saw a video clip on Facebook last week from one of their practices. It was a QB challenge between Walker, Brissett and Luck. They performed it in that order. The QB coach had stacked two 30 gallon plastic trash cans on top of each other so the second was raised up on the base of the first, with the opening up. They were stacked on the very outer back corner of the end zone. The QBs were standing around the 40ish yard line...... 3 tosses each. Walker: missed the trash can 3 times by alot....not even close. Brissett: knocked the top trash can off it's base 3 times with a hell of a velocity. Andrew: Gently lopped the football into the trashcan 3 times w/out the can even wobbling on it's base. Nothing but net. Heard Ebron interview on DD show today....he couldn't say enough about how catchable Luck's balls are vs. what he's used to......makes sense given that we are seeing Luck make some mediocre receiver talent look serviceable.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by 1965southpaw

I don't feel the need to figure out whether this is the same or better version of Luck. I just feel we are incredibly fortunate to have him back and performing so well. I saw a video clip on Facebook last week from one of their practices. It was a QB challenge between Walker, Brissett and Luck. They performed it in that order. The QB coach had stacked two 30 gallon plastic trash cans on top of each other so the second was raised up on the base of the first, with the opening up. They were stacked on the very outer back corner of the end zone. The QBs were standing around the 40ish yard line...... 3 tosses each. Walker: missed the trash can 3 times by alot....not even close. Brissett: knocked the top trash can off it's base 3 times with a hell of a velocity. Andrew: Gently lopped the football into the trashcan 3 times w/out the can even wobbling on it's base. Nothing but net. Heard Ebron interview on DD show today....he couldn't say enough about how catchable Luck's balls are vs. what he's used to......makes sense given that we are seeing Luck make some mediocre receiver talent look serviceable.

Now this is something that I feel is appreciably better about 2018 Luck. He always had very good touch and accuracy, but I feel like he's taken it to a new level this season.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Now this is something that I feel is appreciably better about 2018 Luck. He always had very good touch and accuracy, but I feel like he's taken it to a new level this season.

He just has time to throw. I think this QB has always been there. I will say he is making smarter decisions when running now.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

He just has time to throw. I think this QB has always been there. I will say he is making smarter decisions when running now.

Yeah, this is probably the actual difference.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Now this is something that I feel is appreciably better about 2018 Luck. He always had very good touch and accuracy, but I feel like he's taken it to a new level this season.

Amazing what actually protecting your quarterback will do. He was always capable of this, he showed this potential at Stanford. He was just too busy running for his life to show it. Lost several years due to a GM that couldn’t find talent and s coach that inexplicably wanted to run a long ball offense with a oline that couldn’t block.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Amazing what actually protecting your quarterback will do. He was always capable of this, he showed this potential at Stanford. He was just too busy running for his life to show it. Lost several years due to a GM that couldn’t find talent and s coach that inexplicably wanted to run a long ball offense with a oline that couldn’t block.

protecting the QB coupled with a modern, innovative offense...

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by rcubed

protecting the QB coupled with a modern, innovative offense...

Right, which in of itself protects the QB. Luck is still throwing long bombs (sorry Skip, but he isn’t just dink and dunk Luck) but it isn’t obvious and he doesn’t face 3rdamd long every down. Just thinking of the previous scheme, staff, and front office pisses me off.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Right, which in of itself protects the QB. Luck is still throwing long bombs (sorry Skip, but he isn’t just dink and dunk Luck) but it isn’t obvious and he doesn’t face 3rd-and-long every down. Just thinking of the previous scheme, staff, and front office pisses me off.

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I'll take dink-and-dunk, long, sustained drives all game long.

In the 1980's, part of the season why the Miami Dolphins' "Killer B" defense went from being vaunted to being at or near the bottom of the league was the fact that Dan Marino would often score very quickly, and the team's defense was subsequently on the field a lot.


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[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Amazing what actually protecting your quarterback will do. He was always capable of this, he showed this potential at Stanford. He was just too busy running for his life to show it. Lost several years due to a GM that couldn’t find talent and s coach that inexplicably wanted to run a long ball offense with a oline that couldn’t block.

I don't think it's all attributable to time in the pocket. Some of it is mechanics. Luck spent a ton of time on his lower body and I think we're seeing it help. Remember the balls that would sail on Luck in the past? We aren't seeing that as much this year.