Quentin Nelson film review video

[Dam8610]

He's doing his job well based on that film (though that's just highlights), but he's still not the level of impact player that you want from a top 10 pick. In the first play of that video, Jordan Wilkins erased all of Quenton Nelson's great work by not running between Braden Smith and Joe Haeg into the endzone, as an example.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

He's doing his job well based on that film (though that's just highlights), but he's still not the level of impact player that you want from a top 10 pick. In the first play of that video, Jordan Wilkins erased all of Quenton Nelson's great work by not running between Braden Smith and Joe Haeg into the endzone, as an example.

So the running back picks the wrong hole and that proves you were right that the guard who did his job is not high enough level of impact player to merit a top 10 pick. I disagree with that logic.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

So the running back picks the wrong hole and that proves you were right that the guard who did his job is not high enough level of impact player to merit a top 10 pick. I disagree with that logic.

No, that was an example of how his impact on the game can be completely erased through no fault of his own. That the above can consistently happen in any given game is the reason that the offensive guard position is not a valuable enough position on which to spend a top ten draft pick.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

No, that was an example of how his impact on the game can be completely erased through no fault of his own. That the above can consistently happen in any given game is the reason that the offensive guard position is not a valuable enough position on which to spend a top ten draft pick.

I understood what you meant. I disagree. I believe you could say the same about any player at any position on the team which in my opinion negates your argument. He may not end up being worth the 6th pick (there is almost no doubt in my mind barring injury, he will be.) but it won’t be because of mistakes other players make.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I understood what you meant. I disagree. I believe you could say the same about any player at any position on the team which in my opinion negates your argument. He may not end up being worth the 6th pick (there is almost no doubt in my mind barring injury, he will be.) but it won’t be because of mistakes other players make.

You gotta forgive him. When he was a small child, his parents would drag him up the stairs of the Empire State Building by his leg, with his head banging on every step. Brain damage was unavoidable.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

No, that was an example of how his impact on the game can be completely erased through no fault of his own. That the above can consistently happen in any given game is the reason that the offensive guard position is not a valuable enough position on which to spend a top ten draft pick.

In general I agree that drafting guards in the top 10 is dumb.

That said, your point is stupid. The same argument can be made for taking a guard.

“If the qb can’t get the ball off then a wr is irrelevant”

“A great pass rusher is irrelevant if they can just run”

[VeveJones007]

I hate to be "that guy," but is anyone else tired of the "is a guard worth the 6th pick" discussion? It's done. There's no getting that pick back. All that's left is to assess his play and the impact on the offense's performance. On Sunday's, where a player was picked (or not picked) in the draft is irrelevant.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

I hate to be "that guy," but is anyone else tired of the "is a guard worth the 6th pick" discussion? It's done. There's no getting that pick back. All that's left is to assess his play and the impact on the offense's performance. On Sunday's, where a player was picked (or not picked) in the draft is irrelevant.

Amen !!!

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

I hate to be "that guy," but is anyone else tired of the "is a guard worth the 6th pick" discussion? It's done. There's no getting that pick back. All that's left is to assess his play and the impact on the offense's performance. On Sunday's, where a player was picked (or not picked) in the draft is irrelevant.

I’ve been as critical of the Nelson pick as anyone, but I’d have to say I agree. I certainly don’t believe you can use a different players mistake to knock his selection - especially when on the same play Nelson was doing his job. At the same time using a nice block or two to justify the selection is just as ridiculous and just as common place. At this point everyone should see Nelson’s talent. His selection really will come down to the quality and speed of Ballard’s rebuild. If he builds a winner in a reasonable amount of time then where he acquired each piece will largely be irrelevant. If he struggles to make the team a contender in a reasonable amount of time then Nelson’s selection will stand out to many as a prime example of poor use of resources. Time will tell. For now I’ll let Nelson be the talented rookie he is.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I’ve been as critical of the Nelson pick as anyone, but I’d have to say I agree. I certainly don’t believe you can use a different players mistake to knock his selection - especially when on the same play Nelson was doing his job. At the same time using a nice block or two to justify the selection is just as ridiculous and just as common place. At this point everyone should see Nelson’s talent. His selection really will come down to the quality and speed of Ballard’s rebuild. If he builds a winner in a reasonable amount of time then where he acquired each piece will largely be irrelevant. If he struggles to make the team a contender in a reasonable amount of time then Nelson’s selection will stand out to many as a prime example of poor use of resources. Time will tell. For now I’ll let Nelson be the talented rookie he is.

I see - so what you're saying is that there's really no scenario where the Nelson pick will ever be considered good. Rather, the best we can hope for at this point - one game into his NFL career - is that the details of the pick will be lost in the euphoria of a positive rebuild.