Ballard’s draft record

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

How the fuck am I dying on Lynch's hill? It was a one off on Purdy and now I'm in love with the guy? Never heard of really before all of this crap discussion about Ballard I've gotten myself into. I'm not a Ballard hater. I am a Colt fan who is sick of this mediocrity and have come to the conclusion that the longer Ballard stays the longer we will be mediocre. it isn't an unreasonable view.

Sorry, but when you go from dissing Ballard’s drafting skills…which I disagree with by the way…to lauding Lynch, I make assumptions.

Glad I was wrong.

[Puck]

Zack Hicks on Ballard's draft pick history

https://youtu.be/neeINZFaoJw

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Puck

Zack Hicks on Ballard's draft pick history

https://youtu.be/neeINZFaoJw

I only had a few bones to pick with Hicks. He seems to weight his rankings based on how high a player was drafted, which I didn’t like. Using that standard, a good player selected in the 3rd round is better than a great one taken in the 1st. He also downgrades a player if they left and found success, but didn’t do it as a Colt. And he grades players as busts who failed because they couldn’t stay healthy. .

[Puck]

Lawrence Owen
@Colts_Law
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#Colts Laiatu Latu has more sacks than any other D-lineman selected in the 2024 #NFL draft.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Puck

Lawrence Owen
@Colts_Law
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#Colts Laiatu Latu has more sacks than any other D-lineman selected in the 2024 #NFL draft.

Sacks... my favorite. Problem with just looking at those is you come away saying Latu has a half sack more than Verse—so why such a discrepancy in perception for each?

Well, because...


Total Pressures: Latu, 61 - Verse, 80

Hurries: Latu, 41 - Verse, 52

Hits: Latu, 9 - Verse, 20

Forced Fumbles: Latu, 1 - Verse, 3

Solo Tackles: Latu, 29 - Verse, 38

Stops: Latu, 27 - Verse, 35


Would we trade that 2025 production for half a sack over two years?

[Puck]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Sacks... my favorite. Problem with just looking at those is you come away saying Latu has a half sack more than Verse—so why such a discrepancy in perception for each?

Well, because...


Total Pressures: Latu, 61 - Verse, 80

Hurries: Latu, 41 - Verse, 52

Hits: Latu, 9 - Verse, 20

Forced Fumbles: Latu, 1 - Verse, 3

Solo Tackles: Latu, 29 - Verse, 38

Stops: Latu, 27 - Verse, 35


Would we trade that 2025 production for half a sack over two years?

Would you agree that Verse plays on a much better D with better line help? Latu has basically been "the guy" on our Dline most of the year with injuries and oldness

I think if they were swapped. Latu would have great numbers

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Puck

Would you agree that Verse plays on a much better D with better line help? Latu has basically been "the guy" on our Dline most of the year with injuries and oldness

I think if they were swapped. Latu would have great numbers

For sure, I'm not down on Latu. More a commentary on cherry-picked stats. Seems like the guy's point is that Verse gets all the hype but Latu has the better numbers... but that's misleading.

I don't know if there's a metric out there that's like an amalgamation of opponent's average time to throw juxtaposed with their completion percentage/conversion rate/tight window throw rate... but I'd be interested to see how that applies to Latu and the CB's he had behind him.

I also wonder how much the CB room led to Anarumo coaching the DL to engage the OL and squeeze the pocket - my perception is it was quite a bit. But I don't know.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Sacks... my favorite. Problem with just looking at those is you come away saying Latu has a half sack more than Verse—so why such a discrepancy in perception for each?

Well, because...


Total Pressures: Latu, 61 - Verse, 80

Hurries: Latu, 41 - Verse, 52

Hits: Latu, 9 - Verse, 20

Forced Fumbles: Latu, 1 - Verse, 3

Solo Tackles: Latu, 29 - Verse, 38

Stops: Latu, 27 - Verse, 35


Would we trade that 2025 production for half a sack over two years?

Snaps: Latu, 1374 - Verse, 1690
PBU's: Latu, 6 - Verse, 3
Int's: Latu, 3 - Verse, 0

So clearly, Verse got more snaps and more pass rush attempts, because of that usage, and the fact that Latu was dropped into coverage more than Verse.

IMO, with this data taken into context, it is a wash at this point in time, as to who has performed better. Both have probably mildly underachieved.

I do believe that with better D/L coaching, that Latu can still breakthrough.

[Oldcolt]

I don't think Latu has the explosion/power that the absolute stud pass rushers have. He is still damn good but I think will just always be a tick below the top players because of this.