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Old 03-11-2025, 01:48 PM
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Personally, I think that there’s a lot to like about the signing.

His biggest problem in New York was that he had two General Managers who seem/seemed totally indifferent to the need to build a solid Offensive Line. All too often, his pocket simply collapsed, and two or three pass rushers would converge on him before he had a chance to set up.

Secondly, he had a corps of receivers that could only generously be described as nondescript, a group that was chronically prone to injury and resulted in a situation in which Jones was sometimes throwing to receivers on Sunday who had been brought in off the street on Tuesday.

Third, as Giants owner John Mara mused, the Giants never did a good job of supporting Jones. He saw 3 coaching changes, going from Shurmer, who was fired after Jones rookie season, to Joe Judge who lasted two years, to Brian Daboll, who would have been fired save for the fact that Mara is worried about instability.

What Jones brings to the table is a strong arm, good accuracy, and mobility. If anything happens to Richardson, Jones can step in and you don’t have to shuffle the playbook and change the scheme.

If there’s a danger, it lies in questions about what’s going on between the young man’s ears.

Has he been irretrievably traumatized by his experience with the Giants? Does he hear footsteps where none exist?

Have 5 years of incessant carping from his coaches about interceptions and ball security made him too gun shy and risk averse? Have they weaned him of the gunslinger mentality that was a strength early in his career?

Is he the perfect plan B? I don’t know. What I do know is that you couldn’t put all your eggs in Anthony Richardson’s basket. Even if he irons out his mechanics and becomes the next Josh Allen, legitimate questions linger about his durability. Jones is a Quarterback who is capable of Carrying his team into the playoffs. He did it with the Giants, and if you give him enough support, he can do it in Indy.
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I would think both Jones and Richardson are on 1 year contracts. Best case scenario, Jones pushes Richardson to become the QB we all hoped he could be. Worst case, we dump them both and draft our future QB.
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He's probably just good enough to beat out AR's floor (which is about what we've experienced so far). I wouldn't bank on him flourishing in a new environment.

Should be a decent backup with enough athleticism that the entire playbook doesn't have to change if/when he steps in. Beyond that, just motivation for AR.

Nothing else has the opportunity to matter until QB is solved.
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Best option available I guess

He’ll probably beat out Richardson
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Best option available I guess

He’ll probably beat out Richardson
No probably about it.
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No probably about it.
I don't doubt he will be the better QB in camp and pre-season, but barring a significant injury, I don't see him getting the job.

Can't have him as the actual QB if he beats AR- if so, we stay in QB purgatory as he is not the long term answer. So I see it as a true means to push in hopes it forces AR to be better, and if he doesn't, then we just go full re-set next year at QB, HC, GM.
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I don't doubt he will be the better QB in camp and pre-season, but barring a significant injury, I don't see him getting the job.

Can't have him as the actual QB if he beats AR- if so, we stay in QB purgatory as he is not the long term answer. So I see it as a true means to push in hopes it forces AR to be better, and if he doesn't, then we just go full re-set next year at QB, HC, GM.
Really? Do you think that Steichen and Ballard, who's jobs are on the line, are just bringing Jones in to push Richardson?

I see no way that Irsay signs up for that strategy.
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Really? Do you think that Steichen and Ballard, who's jobs are on the line, are just bringing Jones in to push Richardson?

I see no way that Irsay signs up for that strategy.
If Jones beats AR out for the starting position, barring a deep playoff run with DJ as the QB, Steichen and Ballard are going to get fired.

I just can't believe that three people with as much knowledge about football as Irsay, Steichen, and Ballard, would convince themselves there is a future for this football team with Jones as QB1 for anything more than spot duty in coverage for an injury. At best, we stay the 8-9, 7-10 football team we are for 2-3 years more with him as the QB, which means Q, Kenny, JT, Buck and Grover, are all washed. There is no way Ballard or Steichen can survive that.
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Personally, I think that there’s a lot to like about the signing.

His biggest problem in New York was that he had two General Managers who seem/seemed totally indifferent to the need to build a solid Offensive Line. All too often, his pocket simply collapsed, and two or three pass rushers would converge on him before he had a chance to set up.

Secondly, he had a corps of receivers that could only generously be described as nondescript, a group that was chronically prone to injury and resulted in a situation in which Jones was sometimes throwing to receivers on Sunday who had been brought in off the street on Tuesday.

Third, as Giants owner John Mara mused, the Giants never did a good job of supporting Jones. He saw 3 coaching changes, going from Shurmer, who was fired after Jones rookie season, to Joe Judge who lasted two years, to Brian Daboll, who would have been fired save for the fact that Mara is worried about instability.

What Jones brings to the table is a strong arm, good accuracy, and mobility. If anything happens to Richardson, Jones can step in and you don’t have to shuffle the playbook and change the scheme.

If there’s a danger, it lies in questions about what’s going on between the young man’s ears.

Has he been irretrievably traumatized by his experience with the Giants? Does he hear footsteps where none exist?

Have 5 years of incessant carping from his coaches about interceptions and ball security made him too gun shy and risk averse? Have they weaned him of the gunslinger mentality that was a strength early in his career?

Is he the perfect plan B? I don’t know. What I do know is that you couldn’t put all your eggs in Anthony Richardson’s basket. Even if he irons out his mechanics and becomes the next Josh Allen, legitimate questions linger about his durability. Jones is a Quarterback who is capable of Carrying his team into the playoffs. He did it with the Giants, and if you give him enough support, he can do it in Indy.
Finally a voice of reason, who doesn't just look at stats and determine that Jones is just garbage.
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