A few things I think

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

But that wasn't the claim and it changes the premise. My previous post argued against that claim...



I don't think it's unreasonable to believe the bolded scenario if we had "good" QB play. I would argue 3, maybe 4 wins, but it's at least 2 wins. And just like that, it's a division title. NFL margins.

Minshew, who I assume we don't consider a good QB, is the level of QB that squeaks us into the playoffs. Speaking of him... Colts and Raiders were 9-8 and 8-9 respectively last year. Minshew went 7-6 with us, and 2-7 with them. His surroundings were not the same.

No doubt with good QB play we probably get into the playoffs this year, and let's face it to be a SB contender in today's NFL you need very good if not great QB play.

But I think it's fair to also point out that our D costs us a spot in the playoffs just as much as the QB play and we would have had 3-4 more wins w/ good/ or even decent defensive play. If our D doesn't shit the bed @ NYG and @ Jagoffs we win both of those games. Additionally, our run D was just as much at fault in the losses vs. HOU and @ GB, and if it's not a shit show we win at least 1 and possibly both of those games. Also, I need to point out that we had at least 3 games down the stretch where our O bailed out really bad defensive play against bad offenses: @ NYJ, @ Cheats, and vs. Tits.

So yes we need much better QB play, but we also need much better defensive play as well.