Off-season moves

[Hoopsdoc]

Gus has to go. There’s no way they can bring him back. He is 100 percent gone.

Beyond him, I think the next most likely candidate is Ballard. I’d say it’s a toss up whether Jim fires him or not. It may well depend on whether Jim thinks he can hire a guy to work with AR.

I think it’s at least conceivable that Steichen gets fired. I think it largely depends on the state of his relationship with AR. I don’t see Jim ditching AR this soon, unless things are a lot worse than we know of. So if Jim is forced to choose between the two, I predict he’d pick AR and try to find a coach to develop him.

The level of dysfunction in this organization right now is pretty incredible.

[ChoppedWood]

Wholesale conversion of this pile of shit- get rid of all these fucking idiots! Give AR one more shot with some new people in charge.

GM= John Dorsey
HC= Ben Johnson
DC= Al Golden
QB= AR
RB= Najee Harris

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Wholesale conversion of this pile of shit- get rid of all these fucking idiots! Give AR one more shot with some new people in charge.

GM= John Dorsey
HC= Ben Johnson
DC= Al Golden
QB= AR
RB= Najee Harris

Care to elaborate on why for each of these?

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Care to elaborate on why for each of these?

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Care to elaborate on why for each of these?

Well it is no secret I hate MOST of the front office people currently in place.

Dorsey- widely credited with having overhauled a miserable Lions team in an extremely short period of time- we desperately need the same.

I hate to say it, I went into the season a giant fan of Steichen, and though I think his play calling has been suspect, his leadership seems to be very very poor. Give me Ben Johnson and his creativeness and aggression as a new direction. if we are sticking with AR, which in my plan we do for one more year of prove it, I want the most creative mind I can find to let him just go for it!

Al Golden- rumor is he wants one shot at the NFL before he hangs them up. The ND defense has been dynamic. He doesn't back down and he has been able to get incredible results despite incredible levels of injury. The scheme is 100% gas- they get after the QB and they assault the ball- everything is forward vs backward. To me a total revseral from dumb fuck Bradley's approach.

AR- I am not ready to throw him away just yet. Close, but not quite there. I have seen parts of the game where it looks like he could become a very serious QB. He needs a plan that allows him to succeed, and I don't think Steichen is capable of that sadly.

Harris over JT- I am tired of JT. Has so many moments of greatness, but you can't dispute the fact he is incomplete and repeatedly comes up small in big moments. Someone will probably be willing to give up a couple decent pics for him, so I do it because we need to stockpile young talent. We need solid football players from teams that have a history of being tough. Harris isn't gonna take it to the crib from 60+ 5 times a game, but he is going to stand in the pocket and allow his QB to get off a deep bomb, he's going to battle for 3 on 3rd and 2, he'll catch the 5 yarders in the middle and take the hit, and he is not going to drop the ball at the .5 yard line. To me he is the type of veteran bridge you want as you look to sign the back of the future.

[njcoltfan]

I think they have to draft a QB to give Richardson some competition. He doesn't have to be 6'5" tall and weigh 250lbs, those guys get hurt to much, at least the Colt version does.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I think they have to draft a QB to give Richardson some competition. He doesn't have to be 6'5" tall and weigh 250lbs, those guys get hurt to much, at least the Colt version does.

Or promote Bean and give him a legitimate chance to compete w/ AR.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Well it is no secret I hate MOST of the front office people currently in place.

Dorsey- widely credited with having overhauled a miserable Lions team in an extremely short period of time- we desperately need the same.

I hate to say it, I went into the season a giant fan of Steichen, and though I think his play calling has been suspect, his leadership seems to be very very poor. Give me Ben Johnson and his creativeness and aggression as a new direction. if we are sticking with AR, which in my plan we do for one more year of prove it, I want the most creative mind I can find to let him just go for it!

Al Golden- rumor is he wants one shot at the NFL before he hangs them up. The ND defense has been dynamic. He doesn't back down and he has been able to get incredible results despite incredible levels of injury. The scheme is 100% gas- they get after the QB and they assault the ball- everything is forward vs backward. To me a total revseral from dumb fuck Bradley's approach.

AR- I am not ready to throw him away just yet. Close, but not quite there. I have seen parts of the game where it looks like he could become a very serious QB. He needs a plan that allows him to succeed, and I don't think Steichen is capable of that sadly.

Harris over JT- I am tired of JT. Has so many moments of greatness, but you can't dispute the fact he is incomplete and repeatedly comes up small in big moments. Someone will probably be willing to give up a couple decent pics for him, so I do it because we need to stockpile young talent. We need solid football players from teams that have a history of being tough. Harris isn't gonna take it to the crib from 60+ 5 times a game, but he is going to stand in the pocket and allow his QB to get off a deep bomb, he's going to battle for 3 on 3rd and 2, he'll catch the 5 yarders in the middle and take the hit, and he is not going to drop the ball at the .5 yard line. To me he is the type of veteran bridge you want as you look to sign the back of the future.

I can't disagree w/ really any of this. Although JT would be a ~$12M cap hit in '25 if we release or trade him, so the likelihood that we move on from him this offseason is very unlikely.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Well it is no secret I hate MOST of the front office people currently in place.

Dorsey- widely credited with having overhauled a miserable Lions team in an extremely short period of time- we desperately need the same.

I hate to say it, I went into the season a giant fan of Steichen, and though I think his play calling has been suspect, his leadership seems to be very very poor. Give me Ben Johnson and his creativeness and aggression as a new direction. if we are sticking with AR, which in my plan we do for one more year of prove it, I want the most creative mind I can find to let him just go for it!

Al Golden- rumor is he wants one shot at the NFL before he hangs them up. The ND defense has been dynamic. He doesn't back down and he has been able to get incredible results despite incredible levels of injury. The scheme is 100% gas- they get after the QB and they assault the ball- everything is forward vs backward. To me a total revseral from dumb fuck Bradley's approach.

AR- I am not ready to throw him away just yet. Close, but not quite there. I have seen parts of the game where it looks like he could become a very serious QB. He needs a plan that allows him to succeed, and I don't think Steichen is capable of that sadly.

Harris over JT- I am tired of JT. Has so many moments of greatness, but you can't dispute the fact he is incomplete and repeatedly comes up small in big moments. Someone will probably be willing to give up a couple decent pics for him, so I do it because we need to stockpile young talent. We need solid football players from teams that have a history of being tough. Harris isn't gonna take it to the crib from 60+ 5 times a game, but he is going to stand in the pocket and allow his QB to get off a deep bomb, he's going to battle for 3 on 3rd and 2, he'll catch the 5 yarders in the middle and take the hit, and he is not going to drop the ball at the .5 yard line. To me he is the type of veteran bridge you want as you look to sign the back of the future.

So, you want to get rid of JT, but keep Franklin and Speed, aka the podcast clowns?

This speaks volumes about your mindset.

[Dewey 5]

When I hear Mike Chappell say he thinks Ballard will be back that tells me we are stuck with that clown. Chappy is seldom wrong about things of this nature

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dewey 5

When I hear Mike Chappell say he thinks Ballard will be back that tells me we are stuck with that clown. Chappy is seldom wrong about things of this nature

Watching videos on the subject make me think Chappy is correct. Irsay isn't going to pay another fired high profile guy and eat that contract if he is not willing to spend for free agents.

On a side note, a lot of people point to turnarounds by other teams, but every one of those mentioned have made a home run pick at QB, which it seems we did not do. If Irsay runs it back, we better all hope AR has the work ethic and health this offseason to transform himself into what we all hoped he would have already become.