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Darn, really hate to see that.
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On a side note, Watson is really hurting the Browns with his stupidity.
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On a side note, Watson is really hurting the Browns with his stupidity.
He's not the player he was at Houston!
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The injury to Chubb is an example of why long term contracts to RBs is not a sound investment. I don't know if it's possible, but can a team take out large insurance to be paid to a player if he should sustain such an injury?
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I don't know if it's possible, but can a team take out large insurance to be paid to a player if he should sustain such an injury?

Of course. Either the team or the player could purchase insurance to pay out in the event of a major injury.

But since many NFL contracts are not guaranteed, teams don't worry about insuring those type of contracts.

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Of course. Either the team or the player could purchase insurance to pay out in the event of a major injury.

But since many NFL contracts are not guaranteed, teams don't worry about insuring those type of contracts.
I'm talking about as a negotiation tool. The RB wants a guaranteed contract but the team is reluctant to offer much in terms of guaranteed. They could offer a 4 year contract with a large salary and they could purchase a large insurance policy payable to the RB if he should sustain an injury that ends the career and he gets cut early in the contract.
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I'm talking about as a negotiation tool. The RB wants a guaranteed contract but the team is reluctant to offer much in terms of guaranteed. They could offer a 4 year contract with a large salary and they could purchase a large insurance policy payable to the RB if he should sustain an injury that ends the career and he gets cut early in the contract.

Yes, during contract negotiations, some vets will seek out lesser guarantees vs a full guarantee.

"Fully guaranteed" means that the player will be receiving that money - no matter the circumstances.

As you mentioned, there are other types of guarantees - the guarantee could be for a specific condition - such as guaranteed for injury only. That means that if the player suffers a football-related injury, cannot pass the team physical and is released, he will be owed that money that is injury guaranteed and teams will typically purchase insurance to cover all or part of that payout. On the other hand, if the player is healthy and cut for skill or salary cap reasons, that money is not due to the player.

Likewise, there could be amounts guaranteed for skill or cap purposes - although guaranteed for injury is probably used the most often of those three on an individual basis.

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On a side note, Watson is really hurting the Browns with his stupidity.
It's still early for Watson, there may be a "happy ending" down the road.
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On a side note, Watson is really hurting the Browns with his stupidity.



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The Browns had a 3-point lead in the 3rd quarter of last night's game after their defense had just made a big stop. Their offense was driving near midfield, and was about to try to convert a 3rd-and-9 when Watson inexplicably and flagrantly grabbed and held onto the facemask of a Steelers defender after he had driven him out of bounds. A very makeable 3rd-and-9 turned into a nearly impossible 3rd-and-24. Not surprisingly, the Browns did not pick up the 1st down, and had to punt the ball.

Because of the "cause-and-effect" process, we'll never know for sure if that sequence of events may have cost the Browns a TD or a FG ...... but that absurd action on Watson's part may have wound up being the difference in the game.

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