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I expect them to play better against Arizona, but if Tolzien starts, it won't matter.

The only shot they have of winning is if Brisset starts.
And Brisset probably knows about 5 plays. Take Zona in a roll. Over the Clap
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And Brisset probably knows about 5 plays. Take Zona in a roll. Over the Clap
I would hope by now he knows a fair bit more than that.
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And Brisset probably knows about 5 plays. Take Zona in a roll. Over the Clap
Then there's this article: https://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/9/...start-brissett
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Pagano is quoted as saying he would consider it, but not this Sunday against the Cowboys.

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And Brisset probably knows about 5 plays. Take Zona in a roll. Over the Clap
Better to run 5 plays well, than run 30 plays shitty!
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As far as I can tell the offensive playbook is to hand it off to Gore a couple
of times and then chuck it downfield, hot reads and intermediate routes be damned. Shouldn't be too hard to pick up.
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Maybe I missed it, but why are more people not upset that Ballard didn't have a decent QB ready to go? Luck had surgery back in January. They had to have known that there was at least a chance that he wouldn't be ready. The organization seems like they were blindsided by some kind of freak accident. Did they not learn anything in 2011? There is plenty of cap space. Is Painter 2.0 really the best option out there?
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Maybe I missed it, but why are more people not upset that Ballard didn't have a decent QB ready to go? Luck had surgery back in January. They had to have known that there was at least a chance that he wouldn't be ready. The organization seems like they were blindsided by some kind of freak accident. Did they not learn anything in 2011? There is plenty of cap space. Is Painter 2.0 really the best option out there?
My hunch is Pagano "stood on the table" for Tolzien. In fact, I'd say it's about a 99 percent chance he did.
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My hunch is Pagano "stood on the table" for Tolzien. In fact, I'd say it's about a 99 percent chance he did.
That would be my guess as well

Not that that fully absolves Ballard of blame
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Surely they can teach Brissett even 20 or so plays for the game. He has had a couple weeks with the system. I realize its a short time for a big playbook, but lets be honest, the Colts offensive playbook does not appear to be that vast or complicated in the first place. Which is part of the problem.

And there are some plays ever team runs. Hand off to Gore/Mack. Maybe actually run some screen plays he can complete. Short passes to Doyle. Some end arounds to get TY Hilton in the game even if you can't pass it to him. Simple routes to Moncrief/Hilton. Fly/post patterns to them when needed. How tough could it be to teach him a small group of basic plays?

Just don't put Tolzien out there again. Don't bother, waste of time.

Which of course means, Tolzien will start
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