2023 Draft QBs

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Imagine thinking Trevor Lawrence is going to be better than all the QBs in this class...

I hope he isn't, but it isn't much of a stretch to imagine it being possible. He has the tools, and only being in Jacksonville could actually screw him up. Too bad they got rid of Meyer so quickly.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

I hope he isn't, but it isn't much of a stretch to imagine it being possible. He has the tools, and only being in Jacksonville could actually screw him up. Too bad they got rid of Meyer so quickly.

He has the tools, but he hasn't learned any of the skills in 5 years. His passing ability today is similar to his passing ability as a Freshman at Clemson. The athleticism bails him out until he comes up against a team with an elite QB and a great defense. He may be able to win games without developing further, but he won't do much more than winning a weak division, if the division stays weak.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

He has the tools, but he hasn't learned any of the skills in 5 years. His passing ability today is similar to his passing ability as a Freshman at Clemson. The athleticism bails him out until he comes up against a team with an elite QB and a great defense. He may be able to win games without developing further, but he won't do much more than winning a weak division, if the division stays weak.

Very few of these prospects were coached correctly in college, sans Luck.

Lawrence certainly wasn't coached well under Meyer, then he gets some real coaching and improves.

So let's look at PM's first 2 seasons. Great coaching and continuity within the coaching staff. He had a very difficult rookie year. I was extremely concerned until he brought the team back in the 4th qtr, against a quality Jets team for the victory. Peyton then breaks out in year 2.

So maybe the light goes on for Lawrence in year 3 and he has a breakout season with 2 years of actual good coaching.

If not, I'll agree with you that he will just be a run of the mill mediocre QB in the NFL.

[apballin]

If I’m the GM I’m taking Richardson

His speed has to be respected and creates openings all over the field, there’s no Dlineman in the AFC south that can run him down

He wants to be great and he lines up with Steichens “all ball” philosophy

He’s 20 years old so should easily be the qb for the next 10 years

Say whatever you want about the accuracy but he should be throwing to some big windows because of the fear of his legs

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by apballin

If I’m the GM I’m taking Richardson

His speed has to be respected and creates openings all over the field, there’s no Dlineman in the AFC south that can run him down

He wants to be great and he lines up with Steichens “all ball” philosophy

He’s 20 years old so should easily be the qb for the next 10 years

Say whatever you want about the accuracy but he should be throwing to some big windows because of the fear of his legs

You make good points, I personally think Levis is a safer choice, but the potential upside of Richardson could have whoever passes on him kicking themselves in the balls for the next 10 years!

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by apballin

If I’m the GM I’m taking Richardson

His speed has to be respected and creates openings all over the field, there’s no Dlineman in the AFC south that can run him down

He wants to be great and he lines up with Steichens “all ball” philosophy

He’s 20 years old so should easily be the qb for the next 10 years

Say whatever you want about the accuracy but he should be throwing to some big windows because of the fear of his legs

If you look around the AFC and that QB gauntlet. You will need someone special just to get you through the playoffs.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by apballin

If I’m the GM I’m taking Richardson

You're fired.

[Chromeburn]

More elaboration on Stroud.

https://twitter.com/_mlfootball/stat...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

More elaboration on Stroud.

https://twitter.com/_mlfootball/stat...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

That's what RM and I were saying a few pages back. Good score doesn't mean great QB. But bad score means probably not a great QB. I wonder if this was the same quote RM was referencing.

So it is a percentile, not a score. Still a monster gap according to those quotes.

By the way, I assumed the S2 only started in the past couple of years after they ditched the Wonderlic. But they've been using it for seven years. Does anybody know if more past score have been posted?

I'd love to see the correlation.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Very few of these prospects were coached correctly in college, sans Luck.

Lawrence certainly wasn't coached well under Meyer, then he gets some real coaching and improves.

So let's look at PM's first 2 seasons. Great coaching and continuity within the coaching staff. He had a very difficult rookie year. I was extremely concerned until he brought the team back in the 4th qtr, against a quality Jets team for the victory. Peyton then breaks out in year 2.

So maybe the light goes on for Lawrence in year 3 and he has a breakout season with 2 years of actual good coaching.

If not, I'll agree with you that he will just be a run of the mill mediocre QB in the NFL.

The thing is though the light has already gone on for Lawrence. Despite getting off to a rough start due to the hangover from the Meyer dumpster fire, he still threw for a 66% completion percentage, 4,100 yards, and a TD/Int ratio of 25/8. If you look at the 2nd half of the season (final 9 games) he threw for 70%, 2,300 yards, and 15/2.

Of course Dam's delusional ass is going to get on here and say all of that was pure luck, but anyone with any sense knows you can't luck your way into those good of numbers in the NFL.