It's official - Colts name Shane Steichen as Head Coach

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

That settles it, Stroud will be the guy.

Where do you get that from?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Where do you get that from?

Who's the best at all 3 things Steichen mentioned?

Accuracy? Stroud
Decision-making? Stroud
Ability to create? Stroud

Plus he's 6'3" not 5'10". Trade up, get Stroud.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Who's the best at all 3 things Steichen mentioned?

Accuracy? Stroud
Decision-making? Stroud
Ability to create? Stroud

Plus he's 6'3" not 5'10". Trade up, get Stroud.

Are you a Buckeye alumni by chance….Stroud is far from a sure thing. He looked terrible a times last season. I don’t think you need to trade up to get him anyway, he’ll be there at 4 unless the Cardinals trade their pick?

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

...he’ll be there at 4 unless the Cardinals trade their pick?

As we sit, I have a hard time imagining there won't be movement. We have SEA, DET, and LV immediately behind us in the draft and Carolina is only at #9.

Colts can hold at 4 and take last man standing between Young, Stroud, and Levis if they legitimately don't care who they get. But if they do like a guy, whoever it is, they risk getting leapfrogged and missing him.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

As we sit, I have a hard time imagining there won't be movement. We have SEA, DET, and LV immediately behind us in the draft and Carolina is only at #9.

Colts can hold at 4 and take last man standing between Young, Stroud, and Levis if they legitimately don't care who they get. But if they do like a guy, whoever it is, they risk getting leapfrogged and missing him.

This is why trading to 1 is important for the Colts. The #1 pick is basically only accessible to 2 teams without a massive overpay: the Colts, and the Texans. That's because at 2 they still get their pick of Jalen Carter and Will Anderson, while at 4, they have a near 100% chance of getting one of the two. At 5, it's unlikely they'll get either, meaning the dropoff in value between the 4th and 5th pick for the Bears is steep. That's why you shouldn't believe all the hype going on out there about how the Bears are going to wring every last bit of draft capital out of whoever they trade with. Bears fans will likely be disappointed with what amounts to a modest overpay for one of the Colts or Texans (hopefully the Colts) to move to 1.

While trading to 1 is less than accessible to those teams you mention, trading to 3 might not be. So unless the Colts are comfortable getting their third choice of QB in this class, trading up to 1 is almost a must.

[Ironshaft]

Honestly, I am more interested in trading to #3 than #1.

#3 "guarantees" one of your top 2 QB choices assuming CHI does not pick QB.

I agree that pick #5 or below is not attractive to CHI as their chance to get one of the two prime defenders lowers greatly. I also think #4 is the lowest they would want to go no matter how big the haul of compensation.

We will see, but who knows? Colts management might see AR-15 as the guy so....no movement needed with even a possible trade down a spot or three to still get him.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Ironshaft

Honestly, I am more interested in trading to #3 than #1.

#3 "guarantees" one of your top 2 QB choices assuming CHI does not pick QB.

I agree that pick #5 or below is not attractive to CHI as their chance to get one of the two prime defenders lowers greatly. I also think #4 is the lowest they would want to go no matter how big the haul of compensation.

We will see, but who knows? Colts management might see AR-15 as the guy so....no movement needed with even a possible trade down a spot or three to still get him.

I’m not convinced Chicago won’t take a quarterback. I mean, they watched Fields play, right?

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

As we sit, I have a hard time imagining there won't be movement. We have SEA, DET, and LV immediately behind us in the draft and Carolina is only at #9.

Colts can hold at 4 and take last man standing between Young, Stroud, and Levis if they legitimately don't care who they get. But if they do like a guy, whoever it is, they risk getting leapfrogged and missing him.

I don't expect Seattle and Detroit to be in the market for a QB, they seem to have settled on Geno and Goff.

I'm of the feeling that Reich is going to try to convince Carolina management that he can win with either Darnold or Carr and that they don't need to move up for a QB.

We all know how that will work out.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I don't expect Seattle and Detroit to be in the market for a QB, they seem to have settled on Geno and Goff.

I'm of the feeling that Reich is going to try to convince Carolina management that he can win with either Darnold or Carr and that they don't need to move up for a QB.

We all know how that will work out.

I agree about DET. For the longest time, I took for granted that Goff was a placeholder guy. Then I look up and the Lions offense is top-5 and Goff has had a good year at only 28 years old. I keep instinctively including DET but I don't really see them in play.

You might be right about SEA, but they're still an iffy one for me. Geno Smith also had a good year. But he's also a little older (33 next season) and in the six seasons prior to 2022, he's only had 15 total games and 5 starts. Of course he's also free agent, so we'll have a better idea when we see what kind of contract they offer him.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Ironshaft

Honestly, I am more interested in trading to #3 than #1.

#3 "guarantees" one of your top 2 QB choices assuming CHI does not pick QB.

I agree that pick #5 or below is not attractive to CHI as their chance to get one of the two prime defenders lowers greatly. I also think #4 is the lowest they would want to go no matter how big the haul of compensation.

We will see, but who knows? Colts management might see AR-15 as the guy so....no movement needed with even a possible trade down a spot or three to still get him.

If Bryce Young was 6'0" 210, I'd be right there with you on this strategy. I'll wait for the combine to see, but I'll be shocked if Young measures taller than 5100. My guess is he'll come in at 5096, and if that happens, Stroud's value and intrinsically the value of the #1 pick, will skyrocket. Fortunately, the Colts still have the aforementioned leverage of being the last pick where Anderson or Carter is a virtual lock. A trade like Matt Miller suggested would be fine.

I really hope Colts brass doesn't think Richardson is the answer to anything but the question "How could the Ravens get out of paying Lamar Jackson while maintaining their current offensive system?" If they believe he is the answer to the Colts QB void, I suspect the current regime will learn the meaning of Not For Long.