Indiana badasses

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

No, we need to figure out why our society is suddenly churning out kids like this, who have nothing to believe in and a hatred for everything.

But no one wants to have that conversation.

It’s just so much easier to blame the gun.

Yes, it is easier. No guns=no shootings. Why is that so hard to comprehend

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Yes, it is easier. No guns=no shootings. Why is that so hard to comprehend

Im not sure you can collect all the guns. There are some that should be restricted. A criminal/crazy shouldnt be better armed than the police.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Yes, it is easier. No guns=no shootings. Why is that so hard to comprehend

And how exactly are you going to get rid of all the guns without screwing over guys like me, who have never hurt a soul with a gun and never will?

Sorry, but I refuse to relinquish my rights because some people can’t play nice. Thats never going to happen.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

And how exactly are you going to get rid of all the guns without screwing over guys like me, who have never hurt a soul with a gun and never will?

Sorry, but I refuse to relinquish my rights because some people can’t play nice. Thats never going to happen.

You cant remove all gun. Wild animal populations would explode, then probable crash for a lack of food and forage. And thats just one example.

You cant drive a car without a license. A minor in IN must show proof of passing a safety class, and a given number of driving hours with an instructor. You cant get a bank loan without a credit check. I believe you can not get a hunting license in IN as a minor without taking a safety class.

We can have sensible laws that protect both parties. It will take compromise. There are no absolutes with the Constitution.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by JAFF

You cant remove all gun. Wild animal populations would explode, then probable crash for a lack of food and forage. And thats just one example.

You cant drive a car without a license. A minor in IN must show proof of passing a safety class, and a given number of driving hours with an instructor. You cant get a bank loan without a credit check. I believe you can not get a hunting license in IN as a minor without taking a safety class.

We can have sensible laws that protect both parties. It will take compromise. There are no absolutes with the Constitution.

The constitution is absolute. Where do you get your information from?
Driving is a privilege and not an inalienable right.
Getting a loan is an option.
You're comparing things to a right that are not inherently related.

20,000 gun laws on the slate nationwide and federal level. Enough compromise has been made.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

The constitution is absolute. Where do you get your information from?
Driving is a privilege and not an inalienable right.
Getting a loan is an option.
You're comparing things to a right that are not inherently related.

20,000 gun laws on the slate nationwide and federal level. Enough compromise has been made.

Slavery was legal and now its isnt. Women were denied the vote now they have it. And your right to a gun was to maintain a militia. That need no longer exists, we have a standing army. Nothing is absolute

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Slavery was legal and now its isnt. Women were denied the vote now they have it. And your right to a gun was to maintain a militia. That need no longer exists, we have a standing army. Nothing is absolute

And they had a convention of states and amended the constitution to right the wrongs of our founders. I will not be penalized for the sins of their thinking.

Try getting a convention of states today to amend anything in the constitution. It is absolute. Scotus has ruled twice it is absolute. You fucking morons need to turn CNN off and learn how this country was formed. Nobody, and I mean nobody but you care about your opinions.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

And they had a convention of states and amended the constitution to right the wrongs of our founders. I will not be penalized for the sins of their thinking.

Try getting a convention of states today to amend anything in the constitution. It is absolute. Scotus has ruled twice it is absolute. You fucking morons need to turn CNN off and learn how this country was formed. Nobody, and I mean nobody but you care about your opinions.

And that means we can have gun control by legal action.

Nothing is absolute

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

And they had a convention of states and amended the constitution to right the wrongs of our founders. I will not be penalized for the sins of their thinking.

Try getting a convention of states today to amend anything in the constitution. It is absolute. Scotus has ruled twice it is absolute. You fucking morons need to turn CNN off and learn how this country was formed. Nobody, and I mean nobody but you care about your opinions.

so you are saying its absolute...unless its amended. interesting.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by JAFF

You cant remove all gun. Wild animal populations would explode, then probable crash for a lack of food and forage. And thats just one example.

You cant drive a car without a license. A minor in IN must show proof of passing a safety class, and a given number of driving hours with an instructor. You cant get a bank loan without a credit check. I believe you can not get a hunting license in IN as a minor without taking a safety class.

We can have sensible laws that protect both parties. It will take compromise. There are no absolutes with the Constitution.

Most gun crime is committed with handguns but it’s the scary “assault weapons” that get all the attention.

If I believed for a single second that a ban on AR’s would be the end of it, I’d be inclined to support such a ban. But it wouldn’t be, because the weapon itself is not the problem.

The problem, as I said before, is a society that is creating these people.

So we get rid of AR’s and then when the next shooting happens, which it inevitably will, the same people will be back saying “we have to do something”. And on and on it goes.

So no, f**k that noise.