Leadership

[Oldcolt]

I was proven wrong C&O. Happens all the time. After a night to sleep on it, I am not going to put the blame on any one player (Wentz). It was a total team collapse, everyone has blame on this one. Personally I think that it goes back to being idiots and not getting vaccinated. COVID infected so many of our starters late in the season. Any of you who have had COVID or know folks who have had it know that nobody feels great for quite some time after the infection. In the NFL if you are just a little off you get your asses handed to you. I've buried a child and there is no way Kelly was mentally into the game like he wanted to be. Not his fault, nothing a human can do about grief except let it ride. The real key to leadership is where they take us from here. If they are able to pull themselves together and have a successful year next year I will happily be proven wrong again. I doubt it will happen though. This could lead to a downward spiral big time.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I was wrong

Join the club....everyone is a member!

[Spike]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Join the club....everyone is a member!

I CERTAINLY am a member. Glad to have you with us CP, you have really great takes brother.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Spike

I CERTAINLY am a member. Glad to have you with us CP, you have really great takes brother.

I appreciate that...I've really enjoyed the forum this season despite how it ended! Good bunch a guys with a lot of football knowledge!

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I appreciate that...I've really enjoyed the forum this season despite how it ended! Good bunch a guys with a lot of football knowledge!

I have learned so much in the time I have been here. Great group of fans here.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I was proven wrong C&O. Happens all the time. After a night to sleep on it, I am not going to put the blame on any one player (Wentz). It was a total team collapse, everyone has blame on this one. Personally I think that it goes back to being idiots and not getting vaccinated. COVID infected so many of our starters late in the season. Any of you who have had COVID or know folks who have had it know that nobody feels great for quite some time after the infection. In the NFL if you are just a little off you get your asses handed to you. I've buried a child and there is no way Kelly was mentally into the game like he wanted to be. Not his fault, nothing a human can do about grief except let it ride. The real key to leadership is where they take us from here. If they are able to pull themselves together and have a successful year next year I will happily be proven wrong again. I doubt it will happen though. This could lead to a downward spiral big time.

With all due respect, I think you’re complicating things to much.

It’s simple.

Teams figured out that if you contain JT, Wentz will not beat you. He just can’t do it. Everything that went wrong yesterday started with that.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

With all due respect, I think you’re complicating things to much.

It’s simple.

Teams figured out that if you contain JT, Wentz will not beat you. He just can’t do it. Everything that went wrong yesterday started with that.

I would agree with you except that they contained JT by dominating the entire offensive line from the get go. That is not on Wentz, who did zilch to help I would add. Wentz doesn't play defense and the tone of the game was set up by the Jags driving the field at will to begin with. . It was a total team collapse from the get go, not just one crappy guy who blew it for his teammates who were giving it their all. Wentz was the biggest issue for sure, just not the only one.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I would agree with you except that they contained JT by dominating the entire offensive line from the get go. That is not on Wentz, who did zilch to help I would add. Wentz doesn't play defense and the tone of the game was set up by the Jags driving the field at will to begin with. . It was a total team collapse from the get go, not just one crappy guy who blew it for his teammates who were giving it their all. Wentz was the biggest issue for sure, just not the only one.

That’s why Wentz was brought in here, to win games when everything isn’t working, after all, he’s supposed to be a franchise QB !! He’s not, he’s an average QB at best ! Irsay’s dream of multiple Super Bowls will stay a dream as long as he puts all his faith in the people he has running this franchise. Start paying attention Jim !!

[Oldcolt]

I don't think he was brought in to be a franchise type quarterback. He needed to be just ok. He isn't. I am agreeing with you that he didn't come close to being what we needed, an average QB.

[Brylok]

How does Wentz have a solid gold captain C patch on his chest? He hasn't been here long enough nor been a captain on this team long enough to have a solid gold with all of the stars filled in. That's a 5 year team captain patch. One star filled in for each year he's a captain. Was he just gifted that? He certainly hasn't earned it.