Looks like Julio is going to the Titans

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My point is if one of your linemen go down it affects the QBs confidence and Wentz entire line other then Kelce was backups so doesn’t matter if it’s a 1 step drop if there’s pressure in your face or the WR isn’t open what else can the guy do

Andrew Luck had mechanics issues after his injury so Colts have experience with this and Wentz is a gamer I have no doubt this dudes gonna tear it up this year him and Lucks careers are very similar came into the league hot tore it up then started feeling the expectations rise and tried to do everything which led to injury and firings and teams falling apart

Wentz has a second chance and I believe he’s still got it he needed a reboot

I work with a bengals fan and he said when they played the Eagles last year the only reason it was a game was because of Wentz he said it was pissing him off because he wouldn’t go down easy and he kept making plays to keep them in the game

Wentz will be in the MVP conversation this season that’s all I’m saying

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by apballin

My point is if one of your linemen go down it affects the QBs confidence and Wentz entire line other then Kelce was backups so doesn’t matter if it’s a 1 step drop if there’s pressure in your face or the WR isn’t open what else can the guy do

Andrew Luck had mechanics issues after his injury so Colts have experience with this and Wentz is a gamer I have no doubt this dudes gonna tear it up this year him and Lucks careers are very similar came into the league hot tore it up then started feeling the expectations rise and tried to do everything which led to injury and firings and teams falling apart

Wentz has a second chance and I believe he’s still got it he needed a reboot

I work with a bengals fan and he said when they played the Eagles last year the only reason it was a game was because of Wentz he said it was pissing him off because he wouldn’t go down easy and he kept making plays to keep them in the game

Wentz will be in the MVP conversation this season that’s all I’m saying

If you don’t get the ball out on a 1 step drop, that’s on the QB. No dline is that fast. For example:

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/...es-qb-wentz%2F

Yeah that oline breakdown is bad, but so was the Dallas secondary. The receiver was wide open in front of him. He should have gotten that ball out.

Have you seen any of his games from last season? Did you look at what they were saying about him before the trade? You think the dude is gonna be in the mvp race. I’m worried the dude is gonna bomb, and I actually watched a couple games last year and went through a lot of the criticisms.

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Fulgham, Ward, Reagor, Arcega-whiteside, Richard Rodgers, and Goedert He was playing with a bunch of practice squad guys all year yet he still kept them in games early in the year. The more the losses piled up the worse it got but he single handedly kept them in games

His 3 best games were in prime time last year won all 3

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by apballin

Fulgham, Ward, Reagor, Arcega-whiteside, Richard Rodgers, and Goedert He was playing with a bunch of practice squad guys all year yet he still kept them in games early in the year. The more the losses piled up the worse it got but he single handedly kept them in games

His 3 best games were in prime time last year won all 3

I’m not saying the team wasn’t bad. However the losses weren’t all due to the team. Since they had no running game of course the offense flowed through him, he was the only thing that could keep them in games. He either did, or did not.

However you are not accounting for the bad decision making, the turnovers, the bad mechanics. If was simply a matter of getting more talent they would have kept him. Teams dont bench a franchise QB for multiple games and they don’t trade him away when they are entering their prime. Especially if the QB under him has a lower ceiling. There was a reason we were the only suitor. Sure he could return to form, I would say the pieces are in place to do that. But to not admit there is significant risk associated with Wentz is just homerism. Luckily it looks like it is only a two year investment if he is average to bad.

What does it matter if it was a prime time game or not. Was it against equally horrible nfc east teams? They won four games.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I’m not saying the team wasn’t bad. However the losses weren’t all due to the team. Since they had no running game of course the offense flowed through him, he was the only thing that could keep them in games. He either did, or did not.

However you are not accounting for the bad decision making, the turnovers, the bad mechanics. If was simply a matter of getting more talent they would have kept him. Teams dont bench a franchise QB for multiple games and they don’t trade him away when they are entering their prime. Especially if the QB under him has a lower ceiling. There was a reason we were the only suitor. Sure he could return to form, I would say the pieces are in place to do that. But to not admit there is significant risk associated with Wentz is just homerism. Luckily it looks like it is only a two year investment if he is average to bad.

What does it matter if it was a prime time game or not. Was it against equally horrible nfc east teams? They won four games.

There’s no patience with qbs nowadays they want them to step in and be mahomes or Lamar and everyone wants the shiny new toy. Look at all the qb movement this off season it’s ridiculous

The Eagles went with the cheaper option and future potential option not necessarily the best option.

Winning games in prime time shows me a guy that’s not afraid of the big moments I want a QB that shines in big games. He beat the 49ers (before the were injury ravished) Cowboys, and Giants. Played good games and kept them in vs the Ravens, browns, and Steelers

[YDFL Commish]

Anyone remember Manning 2001? I think it's fair to say he got fixed.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Anyone remember Manning 2001? I think it's fair to say he got fixed.

Adding a great OC and a RB who wouldnt take negative yards works miracles.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by apballin

There’s no patience with qbs nowadays they want them to step in and be mahomes or Lamar and everyone wants the shiny new toy. Look at all the qb movement this off season it’s ridiculous

The Eagles went with the cheaper option and future potential option not necessarily the best option.

Winning games in prime time shows me a guy that’s not afraid of the big moments I want a QB that shines in big games. He beat the 49ers (before the were injury ravished) Cowboys, and Giants. Played good games and kept them in vs the Ravens, browns, and Steelers

There is no patience with rookies. But Wentz was in his 5th year and regressed. They went with the best option in their opinion. Teams don’t trade away franchise QBs, unless there is something wrong or they have a falling out.

They beat a healthy 49ers? This is who was out for the 49ers:
Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas, Richard Sherman, Tevin Coleman on injured reserve. Raheem Mostert (knee), Emmanuel Moseley (concussion), Ahkello Witherspoon (hamstring), Dre Greenlaw (quad), Dee Ford (back) and Jordan Reed (knee) and the lost Ezikiel Ansah during the game.

That’s a 6 win 49er teams. And the Eagles closed that game out with a defensive TD. Wentz had a nice TD with 6 minutes left, also had a god awful interception. All the other teams suck or the defense kept it close. He had two int’s against pit, 2 int’s and a fumble against the Browns, and a fumble against Balt which was probably his best game where he had 200 yards and 2 TDs. And these were his best games last year. We haven’t touched his worst games, which are bad.

This discussion isn’t really making me feel better about the trade.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

There is no patience with rookies. But Wentz was in his 5th year and regressed. They went with the best option in their opinion. Teams don’t trade away franchise QBs, unless there is something wrong or they have a falling out.

They beat a healthy 49ers? This is who was out for the 49ers:
Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas, Richard Sherman, Tevin Coleman on injured reserve. Raheem Mostert (knee), Emmanuel Moseley (concussion), Ahkello Witherspoon (hamstring), Dre Greenlaw (quad), Dee Ford (back) and Jordan Reed (knee) and the lost Ezikiel Ansah during the game.

That’s a 6 win 49er teams. And the Eagles closed that game out with a defensive TD. Wentz had a nice TD with 6 minutes left, also had a god awful interception. All the other teams suck or the defense kept it close. He had two int’s against pit, 2 int’s and a fumble against the Browns, and a fumble against Balt which was probably his best game where he had 200 yards and 2 TDs. And these were his best games last year. We haven’t touched his worst games, which are bad.

This discussion isn’t really making me feel better about the trade.

Again he’s on a better team and will be asked to do less. Rivers had shitty games vs Browns, ravens, and Steelers pretty much made every offense look bad.

So you would feel better going into the season with a rookie? Brissett? Eason? Or Wentz because those were your options

I feel great about it and the good thing is we play the NFC west so we’ll be able to compare Wentz Colts numbers vs NFC west vs Eagles Wentz I can’t wait to revisit this one .....

He was sacked vs Baltimore 6, Pittsburgh 5, and Browns 5

Wentz sacks by game look like this/ 8-0-3-3-5-6-3-4-3-5-6-4

Rivers last year / 0-2-0-1-1-1-2-0-1-1-1-3-0-1-5-0-0