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Old 08-14-2020, 11:26 PM
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Crickets, I thought so. Anybody who supports the left needs to move to Cuba. Look at Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NY and California. All run by democrats and those places are garbage. Luckily I live in a city in California that is conservative.
LOL Are you serious? You post and immediately expect me to respond as soon as you hit "submit"? You can't be serious.

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Really? Then why is Biden and Harris trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment? I like you Maniac, but don't be a fucking sheep for these dumb asses. Biden has said he's coming after the NRA, fuck him.
He isn't. The NRA is not the 2nd amendment. The NRA and it's shady russian money and influence can go away and it won't have any effect on us owning guns at all.

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Serious question, how has Trump been shitting on my constitutional rights? Give me examples please.
really quick examples...

He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.

He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.

He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.

The list goes on and on and on. He is a liar and a con man. You're getting suckered by someone who doesn't give two shits about you and your rights. He just says a few key phrases to instill fear like the whole "taking away your guns" lie. Stop falling for the lies.

This is the last post I'm going to make on this, because I'm quite sure that no matter what I post, you're not going to believe it.

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Old 08-15-2020, 01:10 AM
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Old 08-15-2020, 04:04 AM
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Why is this on a Colts board?
I don't know. I got drunk and felt like posting here. What else is there to talk about now? But you are right, wrong platform for politics. Smitty or Puck can delete this thread if they wish to.
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Old 08-15-2020, 05:02 AM
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LOL Are you serious? You post and immediately expect me to respond as soon as you hit "submit"? You can't be serious.



He isn't. The NRA is not the 2nd amendment. The NRA and it's shady russian money and influence can go away and it won't have any effect on us owning guns at all.



really quick examples...

He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.

He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.

He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.

The list goes on and on and on. He is a liar and a con man. You're getting suckered by someone who doesn't give two shits about you and your rights. He just says a few key phrases to instill fear like the whole "taking away your guns" lie. Stop falling for the lies.

This is the last post I'm going to make on this, because I'm quite sure that no matter what I post, you're not going to believe it.
I don't agree with everything Trump says or tweets. Is he a liar and a con man, hell yes he is. But what politician isn't?

Do you really think the democrats give two shits about you?????

I live in California and it is run by democrats. Newsome, Waters, Harris, Pelosi etc... SF use to be a great city and now there is shit on the sidewalks.

I only voted for Trump because I hated that corrupt POS Hillary. I personally don't trust anyone in the political arena. The only one I know who I can trust is myself. I just don't like the leftist agenda. Maybe I am just stupid and my wife would probably agree with you, well, not probably, she would definitely agree with you all.

Look Maniac, I only want what is best for this country and I am sure you feel the same way. Is Trump perfect, hell no he's not. He's just better than some of the democrats running against him. That's my final word on the subject.
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Really? Then why is Biden and Harris trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment? I like you Maniac, but don't be a fucking sheep for these dumb asses. Biden has said he's coming after the NRA, fuck him.
Biden doesn't have to go after the NRA, the New York AG is doing a fine job shutting them down without Biden's help.

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Serious question, how has Trump been shitting on my constitutional rights? Give me examples please.
That amendment right above the second one. You know, the first amendment. Trump has shat all over that.
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Right because all those times democrats were president or controlled some part of the senate or house, they totally tried taking away rights and guns. Where do you get this nonsense that is repeated every time an election comes around. Oh don’t vote for the Dems they’ll take away all your rights. This time I mean it not like last time.
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I don't agree with everything Trump says or tweets. Is he a liar and a con man, hell yes he is. But what politician isn't?

Do you really think the democrats give two shits about you?????

I live in California and it is run by democrats. Newsome, Waters, Harris, Pelosi etc... SF use to be a great city and now there is shit on the sidewalks.

I only voted for Trump because I hated that corrupt POS Hillary. I personally don't trust anyone in the political arena. The only one I know who I can trust is myself. I just don't like the leftist agenda. Maybe I am just stupid and my wife would probably agree with you, well, not probably, she would definitely agree with you all.

Look Maniac, I only want what is best for this country and I am sure you feel the same way. Is Trump perfect, hell no he's not. He's just better than some of the democrats running against him. That's my final word on the subject.
Spike, Joe Biden's spent the entirety of his political career smack dab in the middle of the Democratic party. If he is elected President, he's not going to, all of a sudden, become the reincarnation of Joe Stalin.
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Old 08-15-2020, 04:27 PM
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He has been violating the emoluments clause in the constitution since he took office. He is using the office of the president for personal gain. He uses Mar-A-Lago, they rent out the whole place and bill the taxpayers. That money goes to his corporation. He has tried to get other officials to use Trump properties. He pushed hydroxychloroquine as President when he was invested in a company making it. Those are violations of the emoluments clause.
Not to nitpick, but the question was how Trump has trampled our Constitutional rights. Those rights laid out in the Constitution and through Amendment to that Constitution.

You have pointed out something that you believe is happening (assuming you are not a prosecuting attorney in a case against the President) that would be illegal for the President to engage in.

That is not a trampling of any citizen right as stated in the Constitution or Amendments. That is illegal activity (if proven) by a Presidential administration.

Those are two very different things.

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He also tried to say that the President had total authority over the governors to open states back up when they shut down over covid. He said : “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.” He thought he could subvert state's rights.
Okay, he said that. Can you please point me to the link that shows a signed Executive Directive ordering a state Governor to open their economy, please? What? He did not sign an Executive Directive ordering a state to open?

Sorry, even Presidents have 1st amendment rights. Trump can say whatever he wants, even from the press room of the White House. It makes for bad optics and bad politics but it is not illegal nor does it actually have ANY effect until he signs an official order directive or bill making it into a law, it is just talk.

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He tried to delay the election and got rebuked even from his own party for wanting to do that.
Sorry, a twitter post is not an attempt to "delay" the election. Again, even Presidents have 1st amendment rights.

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I don't like Trump the man. I think he sucks.

However, honestly, the SIGNED policies, directives and laws that have come out of his White House have been much more pleasing to me than I ever thought a lifelong NY liberal would ever do.

But, be honest about his faults. He has not taken a single Constitutionally granted right away from a single U.S. citizen during his Presidency.

However, Biden and Harris have both said time and time again that they plan on limiting the right to own firearms which is directly counter to what the Constitution states is a citizen right that "shall not be infringed."

11 May 2019: Former Vice President Joe Biden admitted that the “Second Amendment exists” but stressed during his speech in New Hampshire on Tuesday that it does not say everyone is “entitled” to own a gun.

Sorry Maniac, but if you would point out not generalities of issues you don't like about the President but instead show an actual limiting of a Constitutional right, I would love to hear it.

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The right to peaceably assemble comes to mind.

You know, having stormtroopers fire tear gas and rubber bullets at folks exercising their Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

But other than that, yeah, he's perfectly harmless...
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But, be honest about his faults. He has not taken a single Constitutionally granted right away from a single U.S. citizen during his Presidency.
He had peaceful protestors removed from the streets by unidentified federal agents in Portland. That is a direct violation of those protestors' first amendment rights.
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