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[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

All I see here are incoherent ramblings of stereotyping that you guys claim to be above.

Fair enough. I’ll help spell it out for you:

The President you support bragged about the television ratings of his press conferences during a pandemic that has shut down the economy, put hundreds of thousands out of work, and has already killed roughly 15K people - and the number is growing by the day. He bragged his ratings were better than the bachelor. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact. Is that coherent enough for you?

The President you support is on video at one of his campaign rallies mocking a disabled reporter. That is not a stereotype, that’s a fact. Is that coherent enough for you?

You claim Trump has no direct affect on our lives, ok that depends on a lot of factors, but let’s say it’s true. A lot of conservatives claim to dislike Trump, but support him because of judges. That’s specifically one of the things I was replying to in Iron Shaft’s comment - the same comment you responded too. My point is you can’t have it both ways. Either Trump has no effect on anything or the judges he nominates don’t matter. I’d say they do or conservatives wouldn’t care about them and use them as justification for Trump. Stereotype? Possibly, but it’s the exact justification Iron Shaft used, so pretty damn relevant. That coherent enough for you?

Now I did stereotype Trump supporters for on only caring about what effects THEIR daily life. But again that was in response to the exact comment you made justifying Trump - that he isn’t negatively affecting liberals lives so it isn’t a big deal. That coherent enough for you?

Let me add a few for you:

The man you support also is on tape saying he can grab women by the pussy because he’s a star. No stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support attacked a Hispanic judge because or his heritage. No stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support is currently barred from running a charity in NY because he misused funds from a veterans charity. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support ran a fake university that preyed upon people using his family name. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support attacked a former POW that was tortured for being captured. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support is known for not paying his debts and instead tying up people in court and settling for pennies on the dollar. There are tons of documented cases. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

I could go on and on, but I’m sure you know them all. You just disregard them for the exact reason you commented- they don’t personally affect your daily life. Now I think that says a whole lot about you. Am I stereotyping you? Yeah probably, but it’s a stereotype I’m 100% comfortable with.

And I’ll note you did exactly what most Trump supporters do. It’s hard to logically justify your support for such a POS without sounding like a POS yourself so you gloss over any factual points about his behavior. Better to call them incoherent ramblings than actually address anything said.

All of that coherent enough for you?

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Fair enough. I’ll help spell it out for you:

The President you support bragged about the television ratings of his press conferences during a pandemic that has shut down the economy, put hundreds of thousands out of work, and has already killed roughly 15K people - and the number is growing by the day. He bragged his ratings were better than the bachelor. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact. Is that coherent enough for you?

The President you support is on video at one of his campaign rallies mocking a disabled reporter. That is not a stereotype, that’s a fact. Is that coherent enough for you?

You claim Trump has no direct affect on our lives, ok that depends on a lot of factors, but let’s say it’s true. A lot of conservatives claim to dislike Trump, but support him because of judges. That’s specifically one of the things I was replying to in Iron Shaft’s comment - the same comment you responded too. My point is you can’t have it both ways. Either Trump has no effect on anything or he does. Either the judges he nominates has an affect on peoples lives or they don’t. I’d say they do or conservatives wouldn’t care about them and use them as justification for Trump. Stereotype? Possibly, but it’s the exact justification Iron Shaft used, so pretty damn relevant. That coherent enough for you?

Now I did stereotype type Trump supporters based on only caring about what effects THEIR daily life. But again that was in response to the exact comment you made justifying Trump - that he isn’t negatively affecting liberals lives so it isn’t a bid deal. That coherent enough for you?

I’ll add in that the man you support also is on tape saying he can grab women by the pussy because he’s a star. No stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support attacked a Hispanic judge because or his heritage. No stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support is currently barred from running a charity in NY because he misused funds from a veterans charity. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support ran a fake university that preyed upon people using his family name. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support attacked a former POW that was tortured for being captured. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

The man you support is known for not paying his debts and instead tying up people in court and settling for pennies on the dollar. There are tons of documented cases. That’s not a stereotype, that’s a fact.

I could go on and on. By I’m sure you know them all, you just regard them for the exact reason you commented- they don’t personally affect your daily life. Now I think that says a whole lot about you. Am I stereotyping you? Yeah probably, but it’s a stereotype I’m 100% comfortable with.

And I’ll note you did exactly what most Trump supporters do. It’s hard to logically justify your support for such a POS without sounding like a POS yourself so you gloss over any factual points about his behavior. Better to call them incoherent ramblings than actually address anything said.

All of that coherent enough for you?

Most of that has been debunked, but carry on. Like I said before, I am not here to discuss politics. I am here for football. Your points still do not counter that people are responsible for their own fate, not the POTUS.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Most of that has been debunked, but carry on. Like I said before, I am not here to discuss politics. I am here for football. Your points still do not counter that people are responsible for their own fate, not the POTUS.

Please tell me which of them have been debunked- I’d genuinely like to know. Not sure who disagreed with your statement. I’ve seen no one state otherwise. But again, if Trump doesn’t have an effect on anything why support him? Because he called Mexicans rapists? Because he was a reality TV star? I’d really like to know. You keep telling me why I shouldn’t care that my country is led by a lying con artist, but there has to be a reason to support him right? Please enlighten me.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Please tell me which of them have been debunked- I’d genuinely like to know. Not sure who disagreed with your statement. I’ve seen no one state otherwise. But again, if Trump doesn’t have an effect on anything why support him? Because he called Mexicans rapists? Because he was a reality TV star? I’d really like to know. You keep telling me why I shouldn’t care that my country is led by a lying con artist, but there has to be a reason to support him right? Please enlighten me.

No, you don't You are one of those guys who thinks if an R is in the White House, the world sucks. You are no better than the morons who thought their life sucked because a D was in there the 8 years before him. I will say it again, you make your life good or bad, not any POTUS. YOU are the one who sees everything as R and D. Not me. My leanings are libertarian, which means they all do an equally bad job, for the most part.
Like I said, I am here for football. Carry on!

[smitty46953]

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[JAFF]

Trump family loses bid to move marketing scam lawsuit to arbitration

http://https://www.msn.com/en-us/new...on/ar-BB12otgd

In a Wednesday night decision concerning the American Communications Network, U.S. District Judge Lorna Schofield accused the Trumps of acting unfairly by seeking arbitration after first obtaining "the benefits of litigating in federal court," including the dismissal of a racketeering claim.


"This conduct is both substantively prejudicial towards Plaintiffs and seeks to use the [Federal Arbitration Act] as a vehicle to manipulate the rules of procedure to Defendants' benefit and Plaintiffs' harm," Schofield wrote.

Defendants included Trump's adult children, Donald Jr., Eric and Ivanka, and an affiliate of the Trump Organization.

"The court erred, and while we are disappointed, we will take an immediate appeal," Joanna Hendon, a lawyer for the Trumps, said in an email.

In the October 2018 complaint, the Trumps were accused of misleading victims into becoming salespeople for ACN, a multi-level marketing company that charged $499 for a chance to sell videophones and other goods.

According to the plaintiffs, the Trump family conned them into thinking Donald Trump, who had yet to become president, believed their investments would pay off.


The Trumps have called the lawsuit politically motivated, and said Donald's Trump's endorsement of ACN was merely his opinion.

In rejecting arbitration, Schofield noted the plaintiffs' claim that they had no reason to believe their agreements to arbitrate with ACN also covered the Trumps.

Roberta Kaplan, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, said in an email she looked forward to pursuing the proposed class action on behalf of her clients and "thousands of others like them who were defrauded by the Trumps."

Last July, Schofield said the plaintiffs could pursue state law claims of fraud, false advertising and unfair competition against the Trumps, despite dismissing the racketeering claim.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

No, you don't You are one of those guys who thinks if an R is in the White House, the world sucks. You are no better than the morons who thought their life sucked because a D was in there the 8 years before him. I will say it again, you make your life good or bad, not any POTUS. YOU are the one who sees everything as R and D. Not me. My leanings are libertarian, which means they all do an equally bad job, for the most part.
Like I said, I am here for football. Carry on!

I typed out a bunch, but edited to just say this: either address the substance of what’s being said or just shut the fuck up. It’s obvious you have nothing to add beyond the cliche that you keep trotting out. The one that not a single person has disagreed with. Tell me which of my issues with Trump has been debunked as you claim (two of us asked you) or give me a reason you support Trump. Otherwise take you own advice and go talk football. It’s obvious you have nothing else to add here.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Most of that has been debunked, but carry on. Like I said before, I am not here to discuss politics. I am here for football. Your points still do not counter that people are responsible for their own fate, not the POTUS.

NO, that is completely false. Everything that was listed can be found in reliable news sites and honest sources.

Dont Lie for trump, he does enough lying for both of you

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Most of that has been debunked, but carry on. Like I said before, I am not here to discuss politics. I am here for football. Your points still do not counter that people are responsible for their own fate, not the POTUS.

Which ones? Make a list.

[rcubed]

I dont get how the president is allowed to just get rid of independent inspectors/watchdogs that are overseeing things like how his administration is spending billions in aid relief. It defeats the whole purpose of those roles.