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Old 12-28-2018, 11:51 AM
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Right on the first try! You win......well, nothing.

Man, our talent acquisition at the end of the Peyton years and the early Grigson years sucked.

4 guys on the roster since our playoff days. None of them on defense.

That is brutal. It is amazing that we have a borderline top 10 defense, a for sure top 10 offense and good special teams with how young of a roster we have and how little we have spent in free agency over the past couple of seasons.

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Right on the first try! You win......well, nothing.

Man, our talent acquisition at the end of the Peyton years and the early Grigson years sucked.

4 guys on the roster since our playoff days. None of them on defense.

That is brutal. It is amazing that we have a borderline top 10 defense, a for sure top 10 offense and good special teams with how young of a roster we have and how little we have spent in free agency over the past couple of seasons.

The future is bright, Colts fans!

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We did have a defensive scheme change that is very different, that usually clears the deck defensively. But yeah, still doesn't look good. Grigson's only really good pick was TY. My god did he suck at talent acquisition. That orangutan at the zoo might do a better job.
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We did have a defensive scheme change that is very different, that usually clears the deck defensively. But yeah, still doesn't look good. Grigson's only really good pick was TY. My god did he suck at talent acquisition. That orangutan at the zoo might do a better job.
remember that telesco was in on that first draft as well, then he left for the chargers and look where they are now....

I get irsay wanted something new but he really fucked that hire up.
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remember that telesco was in on that first draft as well, then he left for the chargers and look where they are now....

I get irsay wanted something new but he really fucked that hire up.
Very true, Telesco should not have been allowed to leave.

Irsay just got conned. I remember when Telesco left and kinda wondered why Irsay didn’t give the job to him instead of some nobody in Grigson. I wasn’t complaining too much because that first Grigson draft looked great. I still followed Telesco and their drafts who I thought year-in year-out were very good.

The Chargers has a bad injury bug the last couple years which killed their seasons. Still after about Grigson’s third draft and Telesco’s second, I started to see a superior pattern of picks out of the Chargers.
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Wasn't Irsay seriously addicted during the whole Pagano and Grigson hiring stage?

Not to make any excuses for him, but he probably thought that the 3 of them would be the next John, Paul and Ringo.
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Very true, Telesco should not have been allowed to leave.

Irsay just got conned. I remember when Telesco left and kinda wondered why Irsay didn’t give the job to him instead of some nobody in Grigson. I wasn’t complaining too much because that first Grigson draft looked great. I still followed Telesco and their drafts who I thought year-in year-out were very good.

The Chargers has a bad injury bug the last couple years which killed their seasons. Still after about Grigson’s third draft and Telesco’s second, I started to see a superior pattern of picks out of the Chargers.
I think, at the time, Irsay was just ready to clean house and go in a whole new direction altogether, top to bottom, which is why Telesco did not get more of a chance

And then was not a bad idea at the time. It was just he botched the execution of it all and hired the wrong people as GM/coach to bring in as the new regime.
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I think, at the time, Irsay was just ready to clean house and go in a whole new direction altogether, top to bottom, which is why Telesco did not get more of a chance

And then was not a bad idea at the time. It was just he botched the execution of it all and hired the wrong people as GM/coach to bring in as the new regime.
That’s a pretty tough thing to do, bring in first time people at GM and coach. Although he seems to have done it right this time. I think the difference between this past year and 2012 is that he sought out the opinion of a lot of respectable people around the league. Put in perspective the crappy job Grigson and Pagano were doing. But also helpedgwt second opinions on the up and coming people around the league.
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Right on the first try! You win......well, nothing.

Man, our talent acquisition at the end of the Peyton years and the early Grigson years sucked.

4 guys on the roster since our playoff days. None of them on defense.

That is brutal. It is amazing that we have a borderline top 10 defense, a for sure top 10 offense and good special teams with how young of a roster we have and how little we have spent in free agency over the past couple of seasons.

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huh...I thought for sure I would have missed a couple, that was just off the top of my head.

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