** The Official will the Bills go down like Omahas mom vs the Colts Game day thread**

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Our guys that most of you named. I closed the site, or I would give you the numbers I used.

No just asking. I doubt we resign many of those guys.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Puck

When you get into the mindset of BPA instead of need then it will be clearer to you.

Ballard is not going to draft for need

I’m fine with BPA. I think that’s the proper way to go. But you can still supplement with FA, especially if you have a lot of cap room.


Just FYI for everyone. Reich just said they are going to seriously consider moving Q to LT.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Just FYI for everyone. Reich just said they are going to seriously consider moving Q to LT.

Q is very athletic, but he doesn't have the right type of athleticism for LT. His athleticism is more about strength and straight ahead power (and to some extent speed). LT requires a more agile player, and like I said when he was there for a game, he did an adequate job, and likely could be an above average LT, maybe even top 10 in the league if he really worked at it. If you keep him at guard, he's the best player at his position hands down.

That said, this really feels like a classic offseason/pre-draft smokescreen to me. It's very obvious that LT is one of the team's top needs, so they need to make it seem like they have internal options for it.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Q is very athletic, but he doesn't have the right type of athleticism for LT. His athleticism is more about strength and straight ahead power (and to some extent speed). LT requires a more agile player, and like I said when he was there for a game, he did an adequate job, and likely could be an above average LT, maybe even top 10 in the league if he really worked at it. If you keep him at guard, he's the best player at his position hands down.

That said, this really feels like a classic offseason/pre-draft smokescreen to me. It's very obvious that LT is one of the team's top needs, so they need to make it seem like they have internal options for it.

Who’s eyes are the trying to pull the wool over??

[Colts And Orioles]

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This is an awesome game thread. I really hope that the Colts pull this one out.

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[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

Who’s eyes are the trying to pull the wool over??

The rest of the league. Polian did it all the time. Before the 2006 NFL draft because it was so obvious the Colts needed a RB, he did a whole bunch of interviews saying how confident he was that Dominic Rhodes could be a workhorse like Edgerrin James had been for the Colts. I don't think even Polian believed it, but he sure went out and tried to sell it.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If you give Autry and Rhodes market value, that's $15 million AAV according to OTC ($6 million for Autry, $9 million for Rhodes). Also according to OTC, Stallworth and Dulin are ERFAs that can be tendered for $1.7 million combined and Alie-Cox, Pascal, and Odum are RFAs that can be tendered for $6.7 million combined. For sake of ease, we can call that combined total $8.5 million, for a total of $23.5 million. I also resigned Green and Hunt at vet minimum (~$1 million apiece), so that's $24.5 million. Rookie pool is $6.3 million, so that's about $30 million gone (this is where all the rounding up caught up). Sign Rivers at $15 million, and you leave yourself with about $13 million for free agency and roster churn. Maybe you can get Rivers to sign for $10 million? That would allow pursuit of one big ticket FA, my suggestion being Ngakoue. I signed him to a 4 year/$50 million deal with $34.5 in "guarantees" that can be gotten out of fairly easily in Year 2 (a June 1 designation would constitute a cap savings of $6.5 million) and beyond. That left me with ~$6 million of churn space after the rookie pool.

The Colts have lots of cap flexibility, not only because they're under the cap, but because very few (if any) of their existing contract structures are complicated/backloaded. If they restructured a few of those deals, they could sign pretty much anyone this offseason if they wanted to. Not saying they should, just pointing out that that option is available if the Colts deem it necessary.

Oh, and we're not resigning Rivers for $10M-$15M. More like $25M.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chaka

The Colts have lots of cap flexibility, not only because they're under the cap, but because very few (if any) of their existing contract structures are complicated/backloaded. If they restructured a few of those deals, they could sign pretty much anyone this offseason if they wanted to. Not saying they should, just pointing out that that option is available if the Colts deem it necessary.

Oh, and we're not resigning Rivers for $10M-$15M. More like $25M.

If they have to pay Rivers $25 million, you can either forget about Rhodes and Autry coming back or forget about the Colts being active on the free agent market.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If they have to pay Rivers $25 million, you can either forget about Rhodes and Autry coming back or forget about the Colts being active on the free agent market.

I strongly suspect that Rivers will be back, and my guess is that neither Rhodes nor Autry will return. Nothing wrong with either player, and I'm not saying we wouldn't want them back, but both will probably get better offers elsewhere, and I just don't see Ballard matching a big dollar multi-year deal on a 30-year CB or DT (not that Autry will get a mega deal or anything, just that I'd expect it to be more than the Colts would offer)

As far as free agency, I'd expect a similar approach to what we've seen in the past. However, I don't think that what happens with Rivers, Rhodes or Autry will really dictate whether or not we sign someone in free agency.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I’m fine with BPA. I think that’s the proper way to go. But you can still supplement with FA, especially if you have a lot of cap room.


Just FYI for everyone. Reich just said they are going to seriously consider moving Q to LT.

Smokescreen for draft purposes?