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Old 12-15-2025, 10:28 AM
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This is the first season since 1998 that the NFL playoffs does not have a quarterback named Manning, Brady or Mahomes playing.
Those guys just do not grow on trees.

How in the heck do we get another franchise QB?
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Those guys just do not grow on trees.

How in the heck do we get another franchise QB?
Starts with firing Chris Ballard.
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It’s REALLY hard to find a franchise quarterback.

But if you don’t have one, it’s all just window dressing, because you aren’t winning anything without one.
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The way I see it, Sauce in our number 1 pick in 2026, and we have no #1 pick in 2027, my guess is rebuild in 2027, get a top 5 pick in 2028 and hope someone other than Ballard makes that pick!
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First you actually have to want to get one. When Luck retired I distinctly remember Ballard saying he thought that franchise QBs were overrated (my word) and not necessary for building a consistent winning team. If I remember correctly (and I think I do as it was such a different take) he felt you built a great team and just added an ok QB and you can win. Now it does occasionally happen like that, but as sherk pointed out, it is the franchise QBs that consistently get into the playoffs. You need to think it is your number one priority for a team. It is my biggest gripe with Ballard (that and that he cannot scout a pass rusher to save his life)
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Hurry up and wait.

I think Indianapolis may get an opportunity to draft one in 2-3 years.

Might as well see if Jones will come in for cheap the next two, see what AR gives you next year, and let it all burn if it doesn't work. With the chips being put in on the Gardner trade, I really don't see how they have any other option.
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First you actually have to want to get one. When Luck retired I distinctly remember Ballard saying he thought that franchise QBs were overrated (my word) and not necessary for building a consistent winning team. If I remember correctly (and I think I do as it was such a different take) he felt you built a great team and just added an ok QB and you can win. Now it does occasionally happen like that, but as sherk pointed out, it is the franchise QBs that consistently get into the playoffs. You need to think it is your number one priority for a team. It is my biggest gripe with Ballard (that and that he cannot scout a pass rusher to save his life)
Ballard was actually downplaying the importance of a franchise QB while Luck was on the roster. It was one of the first things I heard / saw that told me I didn’t agree with his philosophy. At the time everyone was happy because it sounded like the anti Grigson - build a team where the QB was just another player. Sounds great. It’s just not a realistic winning formula.
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Who are the current franchise QBs right now?
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First you actually have to want to get one. When Luck retired I distinctly remember Ballard saying he thought that franchise QBs were overrated (my word) and not necessary for building a consistent winning team. If I remember correctly (and I think I do as it was such a different take) he felt you built a great team and just added an ok QB and you can win. Now it does occasionally happen like that, but as sherk pointed out, it is the franchise QBs that consistently get into the playoffs. You need to think it is your number one priority for a team. It is my biggest gripe with Ballard (that and that he cannot scout a pass rusher to save his life)
I think that quote is often misunderstood. After seeing teams go through QBs year after year, including us, I see that the teams that find one can draft BPA, and keep the roster stocked, so long as they do not overpay the QB, like we see happening in several cities. You cannot win with just a franchise QB, which is Ballard's point. It takes an entire team to play 60 minutes. Our team is not dependent on a franchise QB to be competitive, but if we were to add one now, this team might join the 72 Dolphins as the undefeated teams. Heck, what many say is a below-average Daniel Jones got us to 8 wins before his season ended.

On a side note, I wonder when his fracture occurred. It seems his play was regressing a couple of weeks before it was announced. It would not surprise me if he hurt it, but didn't complain until he had to get an MRI.
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