[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I largely agree with this, but in my rat's ass of an opinion, Brady is an excellent quarterback.

But the Patriots went 11-5 when Brady missed an entire season with an injury, and only missed the postseason because the AFC was stacked that season.

The Colts, on the other hand, started the 2011 season at 0-13 and finished it at 2-14 when Peyton Manning missed the entire season with an injury.


If Aaron Rodgers were the quarterback for the Patriots all of the years that Brady was, I believe that they would have had more than the 7 Super Bowl appearances and 5 Super Bowl wins that they currently have with Brady behind the center.


If you want to see just how valuable a player is to a team, take him off of said team, and see how they do without him. Peyton Manning carried several average Colts teams (and even 1 or 2 below-average Colts teams) to multiple playoff berths, berths that they would not have come close to sniffing without him. Brady never had such a challenge in his career with the Patriots, as he was always surrounded by great and/or very good teams.


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Originally Posted by kitekrazy

Guys who played in the NFL still talk about how Manning was the only QB in the NFL who called plays. You almost have to go back to the 70's to see that again.
I'd bet this is Brady's final season. There's not much left to play for. If BB retires there will be parity in the coaching. I don't think good coaching exists in the NFL because colleges seem more lucrative. As much as I use to be critical of Dungy you have to remember he had to run a team with no guaranteed resources for defense. He's a genius compared to what the Colts have now.

Unfortunately a guy like Luck is being wasted due to previous management's decisions. Face it, we are rebuilding.

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Belichick doesn't need Brady, as the 2008 team that went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at quarterback was followed by the 2009 team that went 10-6 with Brady at quarterback would appeared to attest to.

I wonder if he wants to demonstrate that after Brady retires, or if they will leave football's stage simultaneously.


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