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1965southpaw 03-17-2020 03:55 PM

colts reach 1 year deal with Rivers
 
Per Schefter we reached a 1 year deal with Rivers. Worth 25 million

https://sports.yahoo.com/colts-find-...195457814.html

Maniac 03-17-2020 03:57 PM

I hate him, but I hate Brissett starting for us even more.

smitty46953 03-17-2020 03:59 PM

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet
The #Colts get their deal done, agreeing to terms with QB Philip Rivers, source said. He gets roughly $25M. The bolo lands in Indy, while Indy continues its restocking with big pieces on both sides of the ball.


Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
Former Chargers' QB Philip Rivers and the Colts reached agreement on a 1-year deal, per source.

:cool:

1 year deal, Colts must have something in mind for one of the 2nd round picks. :cool:

Puck 03-17-2020 03:59 PM

welp . either AL is back next yr or were taking a QB in the draft that means probably trading up to do it Makes no sense

Maniac 03-17-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 156586)
welp . either AL is back next yr or were taking a QB in the draft that means probably trading up to do it Makes no sense

Or they just decided to do it one year at a time. Rivers could still sign another one year deal next year, but I'm sure the Colts will be looking for another QB in the draft still.

nate505 03-17-2020 04:03 PM

I have no big issues with this. Brissett wasn't the answer, and it's only for a year with cap space they have to burn.

Dam8610 03-17-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 156581)
Per Schefter we reached a 1 year deal with Rivers. Worth 25 million

https://sports.yahoo.com/colts-find-...195457814.html

Well here's hoping he doesn't suck. They are making it clear, however, that they have no faith in Brissett, so they'll have to find their QB of the future quickly.

Chaka 03-17-2020 04:03 PM

One year is surprising. And weird under the circumstances. Kinda like the Funchess signing in a way. I'd like to know who was pushing for the short term contract. Maybe there's an option year.

rcubed 03-17-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 156589)
I have no big issues with this. Brissett wasn't the answer, and it's only for a year with cap space they have to burn.

agree

1965southpaw 03-17-2020 04:07 PM

This feels to me like Irsay's influence vs. Ballard strategy......still, I'm happy it's just one year. We still need to find a long term solution and if we don't find that in this year's draft we can extend Rivers for another year or two while we continue to draft.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-17-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 156591)
One year is surprising. And weird under the circumstances. Kinda like the Funchess signing in a way. I'd like to know who was pushing for the short term contract. Maybe there's an option year.


I would guess the two sides couldn't agree on $$$ for a multi-year deal. There were several reports that Rivers per year asking price was higher than what they were expecting. Ballard might have told him - OK, I'll give you that money (maybe a little more) on a one year deal.

rcubed 03-17-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 156591)
One year is surprising. And weird under the circumstances. Kinda like the Funchess signing in a way. I'd like to know who was pushing for the short term contract. Maybe there's an option year.

yeah, I was expecting a 2 year deal.

Racehorse 03-17-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 156591)
One year is surprising. And weird under the circumstances. Kinda like the Funchess signing in a way. I'd like to know who was pushing for the short term contract. Maybe there's an option year.

This just means that hopefully we will only have to cheer for the dude for one year, LOL

rcubed 03-17-2020 04:08 PM

wonder what happens with brissett now.

Dewey 5 03-17-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 156597)
wonder what happens with brissett now.

I was thinking the same. Do they try to trade him or release him?

Chromeburn 03-17-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 156597)
wonder what happens with brissett now.


Brisset probably has to go. I would be surprised if they pay two backups that much money. I also bet this Rivers thing is a year-to-year thing.


We likely draft a QB this year or next year. Later round guys could be Eason, Hurts, Fromm, Gordon. All have warts.
  • Eason probably has the most raw potential/highest ceiling, but could also bust bigtime.
  • Fromm should be a coach, smart QB, little talent.
  • Hurts I heard was improving a lot this off season and has gotten better. He also has the mental make up and leadership you want in a QB. I've heard him comped to Tyron Taylor.
  • Gordan is ehh. Fast release, thats about it.


Or maybe we just don't like any guys this year. Trade back into 1st for Love?

Puck 03-17-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 156590)
Well here's hoping he doesn't suck. They are making it clear, however, that they have no faith in Brissett, so they'll have to find their QB of the future quickly.

Do you think they actually have confidence in Kelly for the future? He's still on the team for some reason.

Workhorse 03-17-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 156607)
I was thinking the same. Do they try to trade him or release him?

No need to release him. They will be able to trade him, if they want to.

Chromeburn 03-17-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 156609)
Do you think they actually have confidence in Kelly for the future? He's still on the team for some reason.

Probably not, the guy was a 7th round pick wasn't he. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Future XFL starter.

Puck 03-17-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 156607)
I was thinking the same. Do they try to trade him or release him?

Rappaport said they plan to keep him

Puck 03-17-2020 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 156611)
Probably not, the guy was a 7th round pick wasn't he. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Future XFL starter.

7th rounder due to off field issues . His college resume is pretty good. Just a mess off field

1965southpaw 03-17-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 156613)
Rappaport said they plan to keep him

Christ Mortensen just said the same on ESPN. He said he talked to Ballard and he explicitly said he remains on the roster. Ballard said he never wanted to be caught again like he was with the Luck injury with no good quality in the backup position.

njcoltfan 03-17-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 156590)
Well here's hoping he doesn't suck. They are making it clear, however, that they have no faith in Brissett, so they'll have to find their QB of the future quickly.

The Colts just gave Brissett a tremendous kick in the nuts !!!

Chaka 03-17-2020 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 156594)
I would guess the two sides couldn't agree on $$$ for a multi-year deal. There were several reports that Rivers per year asking price was higher than what they were expecting. Ballard might have told him - OK, I'll give you that money (maybe a little more) on a one year deal.

Under these circumstances, Rivers loses leverage every year due to age concerns, so I wouldn't think a one year deal is in his best interest. On the other hand, the Colts don't currently have someone waiting in the wings to take over next year, so it doesn't seem like a one-year contract is a good fit for them either. Two years makes sense for both sides. Weird contract if there's no option year.

albany ed 03-17-2020 04:45 PM

I wonder how high up a package of Brissett and their 2 second rounders could move them in the 1st round? High enough to get Love?

smitty46953 03-17-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 156618)
I wonder how high up a package of Brissett and their 2 second rounders could move them in the 1st round? High enough to get Love?

Call the Texans, Bill O'Brian might trade Watson for that haul !!!! :cool:

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-17-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 156618)
I wonder how high up a package of Brissett and their 2 second rounders could move them in the 1st round? High enough to get Love?


I'll leave Brissett out of the equation. If you package the 2 second round picks together, the highest you could probably move up is around Pick 21 to 25 in the first round.

After the combine, there were a few teams with "interest" in Love so probably not high enough.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-17-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156619)
Call the Texans, Bill O'Brian might trade Watson for that haul !!!! :cool:


I don't think it would work out. BO'B would probably want 2 or 3 bad contracts that you could salary dump on the Texans and the Colts can't meet his demands.

smitty46953 03-17-2020 05:14 PM

Per @MoveTheSticks on NFL Network , Rivers said he fully expects this to be more than a 1 year stay in Indy. Could this be one of Ballard's "prove it" to me deals?

I think need add another WR to go along with TY Hilton, and hopefully Campbell. Resign Funchess or Robbie Anderson I believe is still out there. :cool:

Thorgrim 03-17-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 156618)
I wonder how high up a package of Brissett and their 2 second rounders could move them in the 1st round? High enough to get Love?

In this qb starved league I doubt it. I think our best case scenario at this point is Eason. Not sure if he’s the long term answer but give him a year or two under Rivers and we should know. I just don’t know what to make of carrying 3 qbs on the roster.

Thorgrim 03-17-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156642)
Per @MoveTheSticks on NFL Network , Rivers said he fully expects this to be more than a 1 year stay in Indy. Could this be one of Ballard's "prove it" to me deals?

I think need add another WR to go along with TY Hilton, and hopefully Campbell. Resign Funchess or Robbie Anderson I believe is still out there. :cool:

I like the sound of this. If the plan though is to ride Rivers for a few years we need to dip into that deep wr draft pool.

indcolts18288 03-17-2020 05:35 PM

I guess I’ll go with it. One year was the best I could hope for. It’s not like Ballard mortgaged the future to make this a playoff team again. Show me, Phil.


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YDFL Commish 03-17-2020 05:42 PM

I'm not sure if Rivers is the answer. But this and Buckner trade were definitely win now now moves.

I like winning now!

Brylok 03-17-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 156664)
I'm not sure if Rivers is the answer. But this and Buckner trade were definitely win now now moves.

I like winning now!

To me it's more of a "do something now or LOS will be half empty" sort of move. At least now it's interesting. Another year of Jacoby would have been a snooze fest. Thirty two games as starting QB was enough to show what he is. Not his fault though. He never should have been in that position to begin with.

Brylok 03-17-2020 06:05 PM

I have mixed emotions regarding Rivers. I couldn't stand him in the years we'd meet SD in the playoffs and he'd make his baby faces, have little tantrums, and cry to the refs all the time. Remember when he flipped off the fans? After that rivalry ended, I stopped paying attention to him. I saw him a couple of times last year and he looked done out there. But now he's a Colt, back with Reich, and has a much better line in front of him. I have to support him because I want to win games. So despite the past, I'll support him and hope he has a resurgence. It's only year to year as we (hopefully) are developing a young QB. Go Colts!

Beeb 03-17-2020 06:06 PM

Wow...the information I received and earlier posted was thankfully way off. I must have a career with ESPN in my future!

HoosierinFL 03-17-2020 06:25 PM

To me this means that Ballard isn’t high on this years qb draft class, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he does not draft anyone. This looks like a situation where Rivers is a 1 or 2 year stopgap until they can find their guy in the draft.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they kept JB around as a backup, I’d bet he’d agree to it, seems he’s always been that kind of team-first guy,

Ironshaft 03-17-2020 06:57 PM

From the actions of the last couple of days, I cannot help but think that Bill Polian is smiling right now.

What were the three guys that Bill said you never pass on?

Passer. Check!
Pass Rusher. Check!
Pass Protector. Check!

Rivers, Bruckner and Castonzo.

From my looking at the cap, it appears we have about $17m to spend on free agents.

Cutting Jacoby Brissett saves another $9m but I guess we are not doing that.
Cutting Brian Hoyer saves another $5m.

Cutting anyone else would shock me as we don't have much dead wood so the Colts probably have $22m more to spend on free agents.

Wish List:

- WR
- NT
- O-Line Depth

Get a couple of those guys in the "value" period of free agency and I think we will roll into the draft in really good shape to pick BPA in all rounds.

YDFL Commish 03-17-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 156677)
To me this means that Ballard isn’t high on this years qb draft class, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he does not draft anyone. This looks like a situation where Rivers is a 1 or 2 year stopgap until they can find their guy in the draft.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they kept JB around as a backup, I’d bet he’d agree to it, seems he’s always been that kind of team-first guy,

I disagree totally. When has a rookie QB ever won a SB, let alone a championship?

Ballard realizes that we may be ready now, and doesn't want wait for guys to develop.

I'm predicting that Ballard will draft a a QB within the next 2 seasons who will be our QB of the future. If the cards fall right, that may be this season.

Racehorse 03-17-2020 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 156675)
I have mixed emotions regarding Rivers. I couldn't stand him in the years we'd meet SD in the playoffs and he'd make his baby faces, have little tantrums, and cry to the refs all the time. Remember when he flipped off the fans? After that rivalry ended, I stopped paying attention to him. I saw him a couple of times last year and he looked done out there. But now he's a Colt, back with Reich, and has a much better line in front of him. I have to support him because I want to win games. So despite the past, I'll support him and hope he has a resurgence. It's only year to year as we (hopefully) are developing a young QB. Go Colts!

I almost agree 100%


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