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Spike 08-27-2018 11:19 PM

Colts Stink
 
I really can't disagree as much as I would like to. Doyle is a fucking retard, but he is pretty much on the mark on this one.

https://www.indystar.com/media/cinem...l-colts-stink/

daedge 08-27-2018 11:46 PM

Still an over-reaction from a pre-season game, particularly as we all know the offense has been particularly vanilla.

Spike 08-28-2018 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 76409)
Still an over-reaction from a pre-season game, particularly as we all know the offense has been particularly vanilla.

Even if the offense is vanilla, shouldn't we be able to run the fucking ball at least a little bit? Plus, our defense looks like crap too. Just tired of pissing away all of Luck's years.

njcoltfan 08-28-2018 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 76411)
Even if the offense is vanilla, shouldn't we be able to run the fucking ball at least a little bit? Plus, our defense looks like crap too. Just tired of pissing away all of Luck's years.

but look on the bright side, we have a ton of cap space to spend in free agency next year !!! ( sarcasm intended )

JAFF 08-28-2018 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 76411)
Even if the offense is vanilla, shouldn't we be able to run the fucking ball at least a little bit? Plus, our defense looks like crap too. Just tired of pissing away all of Luck's years.

They don't have their left tackle. They don't have a right tackle. One rookie guard on the left side (physically great, still a rookie) and juggling the right guard around to fix the RT.

AC comes back, the left side is fixed. Put Slauson back at RG, and make a decision at RT (Haig or the rookie) and put a TE over there for help. As long as AC is missing, it's going to be a mess.

Howard and Clark have been major dissapointments this off season.

DragonTails 08-28-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 76409)
Still an over-reaction from a pre-season game, particularly as we all know the offense has been particularly vanilla.

What else are they going to say?

This is a LOCK of the year taking Bengals + 3. They are 10x better on both lines and their def line is going to destroy us.

If you want to pay for your season tickets bet the lock. You'll at least feel a little better after the game.

Brylok 08-28-2018 11:44 AM

I doubt they'll be very good... perhaps 6 or 7 wins... but it's pre-season. Pre-season stinks.

HoosierinFL 08-28-2018 12:42 PM

As for RT, maybe Webb can be the guy. I just watched this clip of every Luck passing play (and he scrambled on 3-4 of these) vs 49ers. Howard is in on the first 2 snaps, and looks awful. Got beat bad on the 2nd snap. Just wow.


After that it was Webb, and he never got beat, stayed active through the play, good hand fighting. He had one sorta missed block, he dove at the defenders knees and sorta missed, but since Luck got rid of the ball real quick, that defender never had a chance to take advantage.
Granted, I'd want to see his run blocking before annointing him an acceptable starter at RT, but the pass blocking looks alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2h...ature=youtu.be

edit: also worth pointing out that Smith was in at RG for all those snaps. He was decent. Struggled a couple times, but had more plays where he held his block.

VeveJones007 08-28-2018 05:06 PM

I’m not saying they’ll be anything special, but you can’t read too much into preseason without game plans, all starters, a QB still getting re-acclimated, and a particularly vanilla offense.

This season is about progression anyway. Do they look better in Nov/Dec than they do in Sept?

VeveJones007 08-28-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 76457)
As for RT, maybe Webb can be the guy. I just watched this clip of every Luck passing play (and he scrambled on 3-4 of these) vs 49ers. Howard is in on the first 2 snaps, and looks awful. Got beat bad on the 2nd snap. Just wow.


After that it was Webb, and he never got beat, stayed active through the play, good hand fighting. He had one sorta missed block, he dove at the defenders knees and sorta missed, but since Luck got rid of the ball real quick, that defender never had a chance to take advantage.
Granted, I'd want to see his run blocking before annointing him an acceptable starter at RT, but the pass blocking looks alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2h...ature=youtu.be

edit: also worth pointing out that Smith was in at RG for all those snaps. He was decent. Struggled a couple times, but had more plays where he held his block.

Was interesting watching Nelson as well. Seemed like there were several plays where he kept a close eye on Hart and whether he needed help. If AC allows Nelson to focus on the interior, will be better gauge for him.

Voosh 08-28-2018 05:16 PM

For you guys that watch the line, how has Kelly looked? I haven't heard much about him, which could be a good thing.

Colt Classic 08-28-2018 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Voosh (Post 76502)
For you guys that watch the line, how has Kelly looked? I haven't heard much about him, which could be a good thing.

He's no Samson Satele.

YDFL Commish 08-28-2018 07:27 PM

I guess I'm a little higher on this team than most. I've been excited about the play of several guys on defense, Leonard, Skai Moore, Desir, Geathers, Hooker, Kenny Moore, Autry, Ridgeway, Roches and DeLaire.

My surprise cuts on the defensive side of the ball, are Najee Goode, Grover Stewart, Margus Hunt. Just prefer to go with the young guys.

Offensively, I believe health is the biggest issue, other than WR. A healthy Luck, Hilton, Castonzo, Good and Mack will be needed.

Also, I don't believe offensively the Colts or Luck, have just Let er' Rip in any way shape or form during this preseason. The reasons are twofold, to save Luck's arm for the regular season, and to not show teams that Luck can and will throw deep, as well as not exposing our offensive scheme.

I think the OL will be fine with AC back, Slauson at RG and settling on any RT not named Austin Howard.

Now on to the piss poor WR position. After TY this group may be long on potential, but they are short on being NFL ready. Grant is a JAG and never should be a starting WR.

My call out to Ballard...PLEASE! PLEASE! trade for a WR. Luck is locking on to Hilton too much, and we need someone else that can occasionally win their one on one match ups and don't have to be constantly schemed open.

Apparently the Broncos are very high on their 2 rooks, Sutton and Hamilton, so I would make a play for either D. Thomas or E. Sanders.

Colt Classic 08-28-2018 08:31 PM

For WR if they're all just average, why not put that guy Fountain up there at #2? He's got size at least. Let the others figure out who is #3 and #4.

YDFL Commish 08-28-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt Classic (Post 76522)
For WR if they're all just average, why not put that guy Fountain up there at #2? He's got size at least. Let the others figure out who is #3 and #4.

But, has he stood out anymore than the rest of the lot? A few of them have had their moments. I just believe that none of them have earned anything, as of yet.

DragonTails 08-28-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 76516)
I guess I'm a little higher on this team than most. I've been excited about the play of several guys on defense, Leonard, Skai Moore, Desir, Geathers, Hooker, Kenny Moore, Autry, Ridgeway, Roches and DeLaire.

My surprise cuts on the defensive side of the ball, are Najee Goode, Grover Stewart, Margus Hunt. Just prefer to go with the young guys.

Offensively, I believe health is the biggest issue, other than WR. A healthy Luck, Hilton, Castonzo, Good and Mack will be needed.

Also, I don't believe offensively the Colts or Luck, have just Let er' Rip in any way shape or form during this preseason. The reasons are twofold, to save Luck's arm for the regular season, and to not show teams that Luck can and will throw deep, as well as not exposing our offensive scheme.

I think the OL will be fine with AC back, Slauson at RG and settling on any RT not named Austin Howard.

Now on to the piss poor WR position. After TY this group may be long on potential, but they are short on being NFL ready. Grant is a JAG and never should be a starting WR.

My call out to Ballard...PLEASE! PLEASE! trade for a WR. Luck is locking on to Hilton too much, and we need someone else that can occasionally win their one on one match ups and don't have to be constantly schemed open.

Apparently the Broncos are very high on their 2 rooks, Sutton and Hamilton, so I would make a play for either D. Thomas or E. Sanders.

Lets not forget Hilton disappears for weeks at a time too.

FatDT 08-28-2018 09:36 PM

I’m disappointed Rogers hasn’t seperated himself so far. Never expected anything from Grant. Lots of 2 TE in our future this year.

Dewey 5 08-28-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 76531)
I’m disappointed Rogers hasn’t seperated himself so far. Never expected anything from Grant. Lots of 2 TE in our future this year.

Sucks that Deon Cain got injured. I think he would-have really made a solid contribution.

Hoopsdoc 08-29-2018 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 76516)
I guess I'm a little higher on this team than most. I've been excited about the play of several guys on defense, Leonard, Skai Moore, Desir, Geathers, Hooker, Kenny Moore, Autry, Ridgeway, Roches and DeLaire.

My surprise cuts on the defensive side of the ball, are Najee Goode, Grover Stewart, Margus Hunt. Just prefer to go with the young guys.

Offensively, I believe health is the biggest issue, other than WR. A healthy Luck, Hilton, Castonzo, Good and Mack will be needed.

Also, I don't believe offensively the Colts or Luck, have just Let er' Rip in any way shape or form during this preseason. The reasons are twofold, to save Luck's arm for the regular season, and to not show teams that Luck can and will throw deep, as well as not exposing our offensive scheme.

I think the OL will be fine with AC back, Slauson at RG and settling on any RT not named Austin Howard.

Now on to the piss poor WR position. After TY this group may be long on potential, but they are short on being NFL ready. Grant is a JAG and never should be a starting WR.

My call out to Ballard...PLEASE! PLEASE! trade for a WR. Luck is locking on to Hilton too much, and we need someone else that can occasionally win their one on one match ups and don't have to be constantly schemed open.

Apparently the Broncos are very high on their 2 rooks, Sutton and Hamilton, so I would make a play for either D. Thomas or E. Sanders.

I haven’t worried about Lucks arm since the red zone int he threw against Baltimore. It was a bad throw but it was also a rocket.

Dam8610 08-29-2018 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 76531)
I’m disappointed Rogers hasn’t seperated himself so far. Never expected anything from Grant. Lots of 2 TE in our future this year.

But we knew that already. Philadelphia loves to use their TEs in the passing game. Ebron and Doyle might be the team's second and third best receivers anyway.

FatDT 08-29-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 76547)
But we knew that already. Philadelphia loves to use their TEs in the passing game. Ebron and Doyle might be the team's second and third best receivers anyway.

Ross Travis might be their 4th. We need Luck to elevate the game of these WRs. At least one other.

1965southpaw 08-29-2018 10:55 AM

I think Sunday is going to be an important day for this roster. I have to think that there will be some cuts from other teams rosters that are are better than some of the guys at the bottom third of our roster. Hopefully we can find a couple of gems in the trash pile.

FatDT 08-29-2018 12:36 PM

Who was the last late-preseason cut that played an important role for the Colts? I'm not asking to prove a point, it's a genuine question I don't know the answer to.

VeveJones007 08-29-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 76532)
Sucks that Deon Cain got injured. I think he would-have really made a solid contribution.

That's the thing I'm most disappointed in from the preseason. I was looking forward to watching his development this year.

Racehorse 08-29-2018 05:42 PM

You know what stinks? Doyel. He is always shitting in someone's lunch. He makes Omaha look like Mr. Positivity.

Colt Classic 08-29-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 76582)
Who was the last late-preseason cut that played an important role for the Colts? I'm not asking to prove a point, it's a genuine question I don't know the answer to.

Not an immediate cut turned into a roster player but here's an old article:

Jeff Saturday, C, Colts. He was passed over in the 1998 draft and signed by Baltimore, but Saturday never made it to training camp before being cut. He didn’t get back onto an NFL roster until 1999 when the Colts signed him. He snapped to Peyton Manning for the next 12 years.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/n...v1uwxeb0yss5vn

1965southpaw 08-31-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 76582)
Who was the last late-preseason cut that played an important role for the Colts? I'm not asking to prove a point, it's a genuine question I don't know the answer to.

Jack Doyle was claimed off waivers in 2013. Still, my point wasn't that we'd get a superstar but merely solid depth/contributors in one or two areas. Let's face it this roster ihas some big holes. I'd hope someone else's trash may be of some value if not treasure. If not, I'm still predicting 8 wins based on luck at QB and competent coaching.

JAFF 08-31-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 76582)
Who was the last late-preseason cut that played an important role for the Colts? I'm not asking to prove a point, it's a genuine question I don't know the answer to.

Ryan Liljia was waived and the Chiefs tried to stash him on their practice squad. Polian jumped all over it. He was the perfect Howard Mudd lineman

apballin 09-03-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 76437)
What else are they going to say?

This is a LOCK of the year taking Bengals + 3. They are 10x better on both lines and their def line is going to destroy us.

If you want to pay for your season tickets bet the lock. You'll at least feel a little better after the game.

You are fucking crazy, the Bengals o line is shit

No lockby far, they have the more talented team- we have themore talented O-line and QB


That's hardly a LOCK of the year

DragonTails 09-03-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 77365)
You are fucking crazy, the Bengals o line is shit

No lockby far, they have the more talented team- we have themore talented O-line and QB


That's hardly a LOCK of the year

lol

I remember you from the last 3 year's opening games. I called everyone of them and you disagreed every time. That fact you don't agree with this one just made me double my bet. Thanks

I don't want to pick the bengals but it's a winner. don't get bent out of shape. It's business - nothing personal.

apballin 09-03-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 77398)
lol

I remember you from the last 3 year's opening games. I called everyone of them and you disagreed every time. That fact you don't agree with this one just made me double my bet. Thanks

I don't want to pick the bengals but it's a winner. don't get bent out of shape. It's business - nothing personal.

Your money I could care less, Lock of the year is bullshit tho, far better games to wager on than this.

New year-new coaching staff- new offense- new defense no way Bengals are ready for this team

Bengals are predictable and O-line is still in question, and no Burfict for this game

We'll see

Colts And Orioles 01-03-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 76405)


I really can't disagree as much as I would like to. Doyle is a fucking retard, but he is pretty much on the mark on this one.

https://www.indystar.com/media/cinem...l-colts-stink/



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I wonder if Doyel remembers his assertions, and if so, I wonder what he thinks of them now.


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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 76409)


Still an over-reaction from a pre-season game, particularly as we all know the offense has been particularly vanilla.



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Good call.

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Racehorse 01-03-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 103023)
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I wonder if Doyel remembers his assertions, and if so, I wonder what he thinks of them now.


He is eating his crow and seems to be happy to do so...until the next bump in the road.

Colts And Orioles 01-03-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 103024)


He is eating his crow, and seems to be happy to do so ........ until the next bump in the road.



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Thanks, I didn't know that ........ I don't read (or listen) to him a lot, but I found this thread and his assertions very interesting in hindsight.

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Racehorse 01-03-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 103025)
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Thanks, I didn't know that ........ I don't read (or listen) to him a lot, but I found this thread and his assertions very interesting in hindsight.

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He kind of back-handed it by saying that nobody else saw us doing anything, so it was more of a surprise on everyone, and therefore not his fault. He i still a turd, but at least he is taking his crow.

Chromeburn 01-03-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 103038)
He kind of back-handed it by saying that nobody else saw us doing anything, so it was more of a surprise on everyone, and therefore not his fault. He i still a turd, but at least he is taking his crow.

Lots of people, especially fans, predicted a second-half season run. Don't think too many people expected the playoffs though.

rcubed 01-03-2019 06:16 PM

he seems like one of those people that are not comfortable unless they are miserable.

Racehorse 01-03-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 103046)
he seems like one of those people that are not comfortable unless they are miserable.

Ruyinn? or however you spell it

Butter 01-03-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 103045)
Lots of people, especially fans, predicted a second-half season run. Don't think too many people expected the playoffs though.

That was me to pretty much a T. I also did not expect the D to look nearly this good.

Colts And Orioles 01-03-2019 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 103046)


He seems like one of those people that are not comfortable unless they are miserable.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 103067)


Ruyinn? Or, however you spell it.



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Ryuujin.

He has not posted since the Colts lost to the Jets, back in October (I'm sure that it's just a coincidence that he has not had time to say anything since.)


http://coltfreaks.com/forum/member.php?u=99


He made 20 posts in that thread ........ he came trotting along to take a shit on the team, and to condescend to several posters (myself included) about how misguided we were. He finished up that day by making a fool of himself by misspelling "cheerleading" after having called me a dumb-ass for a typo that I had made.

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